Baby steps my foot! Law enforcement officers aren't responsible for our safety. We as individual citizens are responsible.
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Sorry about your foot, but it couldn't have hurt much if it was just a baby that stepped on it
I'm as anxious as anyone to go straight to having the God-given right to look after myself and my own as I see fit, so I agree with the spirit of your reaction 100%. My point was we shouldn't throw out making the intermediate efforts just to concentrate on the ultimate goal. The elephant can only be eaten one bite at a time.
I'm as anxious as anyone to go straight to having the God-given right to look after myself and my own as I see fit, so I agree with the spirit of your reaction 100%. My point was we shouldn't throw out making the intermediate efforts just to concentrate on the ultimate goal. The elephant can only be eaten one bite at a time.
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Actually this ruling makes it all the more important for TX to pass its similiar law. Now its got the court's nod and so it doesn't look like a pointless jesture to pass the law. Before this ruling all our efforts could have been tossed aside after a NO ruling over the OK law.sbb wrote:While i totally agree on advancing our cause, if the Federal Appeals court has given its opinion on this matter and that opinion would in effect set precident on this issue, why continue to flog the horse after it has won the race? I may be way off base here but since the Texas legislature meets only once every two years it would seem to me that time could be devoted to other pro gun issues. This would also further our cause and just maybe get some legislation passed this session instead of in 2011.
Get this one passed and lets then go after the ban on campus
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I, for one, and for now, share Purplehood's sentiments.Purplehood wrote:I for one, am happy to see a Federal Agency specifically stating that it is not going to try and trump State laws, or the Constitution, as was mentioned in the letter.
HOWEVER, in reading the entire OSHA text, one can get a very aprehensive feeling. OSHA regulations are NOT laws passed by elected officials. OSHA really answers to no one when it comes to issuing edicts. While it CURRENTLY seems to be populated with reasonable people who are not rabidly anti-2nd Ammendment, that could change if the current administration appointed strongly anti-gun officials to OSHA. They might then decide that firearms in the parking lot DID constitute a serious ongoing hazard and that it DID create an employer obligation to mitigate the hazard.
All it would take would be a few wrong people appointed to this body which is not directly accountable to any voter.
Now, THAT, would be a rat's nest.
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What the deal with that?tfrazier wrote:Wow. Oklahoma is actually ahead of Texas on gun rights for the moment. I hope our legislature will have the gumption to catch up ;), especially since I'm one of the poor saps who has to travel back and forth to work 'naked'.
Cheers for these judges, jeers to ConocoPhillips, and jeers to the Obama administration.
I'm almost embarassed!
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OTOH, that makes those inclined to oppose it that much more determined: they can no longer just let it pass, believing that it will be struck down shortly.Plato wrote:Actually this ruling makes it all the more important for TX to pass its similiar law. Now its got the court's nod and so it doesn't look like a pointless jesture to pass the law. Before this ruling all our efforts could have been tossed aside after a NO ruling over the OK law.
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Bureaucracies are loath to reverse any publically stated position, even one from a previous administration, since it would open them up to everyone who has a bone to pick with other stated positions wanting them reviewed.CWOOD wrote:While it CURRENTLY seems to be populated with reasonable people who are not rabidly anti-2nd Ammendment, that could change if the current administration appointed strongly anti-gun officials to OSHA. They might then decide that firearms in the parking lot DID constitute a serious ongoing hazard and that it DID create an employer obligation to mitigate the hazard.
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Maybe we can call ourselves Baja Oklahoma and skip the Legislature.