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Im having a problem that is proving hard to fix with one of my Romanians (WASR-10). It constantly fails to eject. Ive tried shooting it without a magazine, and it still does it. What happens is when it fires, the action moves back about 1/4" and locks up. I have completely cleaned and polished every moving surface, including the chamber, and it still fails to eject. I read on some other board that some of the Romanians had canted front sights, and it appears as though this one may be canted as well, and the gas hole isnt lining up, thereby reducing the pressure on the piston. If this were the case, would the rifle lock up the way its doing? I have to bang the stock on a block of wood while pushing the charging handle to eject the spent rounds. (Yes, I do remove the magazine first!) :headscratch

EDIT: I forgot to ask, if the sight is the problem, how does one go about turning it to fix it?
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Re: Problem AK

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I am by no means an AK guru but the fact that you just can't grab the handle and pull sounds like it's not a gas issue. A buddie of mine had an old Garand that the chamber was worn out on. Mil. surplus would shoot fine but over the counter rounds would do the same thing as you are saying because the spent caseing was expanding and sticking in the chamber.

Keep us posted on what you find out as I have a wasr and may run into the same thing down the road.
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Find a good gunsmith. It can be fixed for like $100 or less. Get a quote first.
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Cosmo 9 wrote:I am by no means an AK guru but the fact that you just can't grab the handle and pull sounds like it's not a gas issue. A buddie of mine had an old Garand that the chamber was worn out on. Mil. surplus would shoot fine but over the counter rounds would do the same thing as you are saying because the spent caseing was expanding and sticking in the chamber.

Keep us posted on what you find out as I have a wasr and may run into the same thing down the road.
The chamber measurements are within specs as far as I can tell. I cant get my micrometer far enough in to measure the front where it narrows down, but the back half is good. When I first got the rifle it was full of cosmoline, and I didnt get it all out, and that caused problems, but the rounds were stovepiping, not failing to eject. I have been shooting the laquer coated Wolf stuff through it, and thought along the same lines as you in that maybe it was gummed up. Using fine Scotchbrite and a Dremmel, I polished the chamber as best as I could, its hard to get into the whole chamber due to the extreme angle. Anyhow it still locks up. Im thinking of swaping parts with the other one to see if I can narrow it down to a particular part, but the canted front sight is still bothering me, as I cant adjust windage enough to overcome it using the iron sights. Its actually a good shooter accuracy wise when using the scope.

Ill probably take Beirutys advice and try to locate a gunsmith that knows the system. Does anyone know of one or two around the Houston area that can help? I was thinking of giving the guys over at SOG Armory a call. Has anyone had any experience with them?
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Re: Problem AK

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The AK is a favorite rifle at warriortalk.com, and they have a section devoted to it, moderated by AK gunsmith. You could try asking over there. Also Akfiles.com, and AR15.com has a big AK section.

As to the canted sights, I would assume a gunsmith can handle it of course, but there are DIY instructions on the 'net as well. Just google on "AK canted sight fix." I haven't had to do it, so can't verify what you will see, but it seems to be a pretty common fix for romanian rifles.
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Ill have to look it up at home. Most of the good sites are blocked here at work. Cant figure out how they missed this one, but I aint tellin anyone! :thumbs2:
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:grumble

I hate getting old. I just noticed that all this time I have been saying the front sight is canted. I guess my mind is confusing my AK with my AR, because I meant to say the gas tube is canted. Thats why it appears as though the gas hole in the barrel doesnt appear to line up correctly with the gas block. I am assuming the small ammount of cant in the block and tube might be causing the piston to travel at an angle, and not straight back toward the reciever. That might cause it to 'lock up' the way it is doing. Im at my wits end with this rifle. It has to be something so simple that I am overlooking/overthinking the problem. Leave it to me to get the only AK on the planet that jams up every shot. :banghead:
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http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?p=411942" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ak-47-talk ... sight.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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WarHawk-AVG wrote:http://thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=295197
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?p=411942" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/forums/p ... -p=1#16302" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ak-47-talk ... sight.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Its an AK! MAKE IT WORK!
:oops: Im trying Hawk, really! Should have spent the extra bucks for a real one I guess. :banghead:
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Re: Problem AK

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No no...a WASR is an AK

It just needs some TLC and a big hammer!

Follow those links..you have to either drive the pins out...move the sight and the gas tube to unbind the op rod, or heat the base of the sight where the pins are and forceably move the sight over w/o bending the barrel...

Its a common issue with Century Arms WASR AK to have the front sight canted...
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WarHawk-AVG wrote:No no...a WASR is an AK

It just needs some TLC and a big hammer!
Has he tried just whacking it a couple times with the butt end of a Mosin Nagant? :mrgreen:

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Re: Problem AK

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I own a romanian WASR-10/63 as well and I have never experienced this problem...along with 4 of my friends who own romy WASR-10/63s.

sounds like you have a canted gas block....have you tried firing different types of ammo? that may help.


good luck, i would've called the store you bought it from to exchange for a working gun.
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