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post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:50 am
by J.R.@A&M
Full disclosure -- I voted for President Trump twice. The following are some opinions, mixed with a little blatant hope.

The White House hasn't conceded yet, so I will. It's over. I'm glad it's over.

Biden's election outcome appears clearly, albeit not sweepingly/massively. I personally didn't want anything that appeared as a sweeping mandate, but I did want a clear result. So this is a good thing.

So far no serious protests and no violence, which is a good thing.

Politics aside, Trump losing is a check on Trump the individual, which I judge is probably a good thing.

This particular election appears as a check on socialist ballshut, which is a very good thing.

The House and Senate tightening is a recipe for gridlock, which is a good thing (my opinion, and the stock market's, too).

I would hope that Biden's single term and elder perspective might free him to be boldly bipartisan in his governing, which would be a good thing.

We'll see.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:11 am
by parabelum
If there’s one thing that Trump did, it is that he lifted the proverbial skirt up to expose our broken political and election process, in a huge way. Right along with exposing the media for the liars that they are.
No, Trump did not lose. We the People lost. I hope that in the coming weeks those who have committed voter fraud are escorted to prison where they belong.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:21 am
by mayor
huh? it isn't over until it's over. I agree that the President did expose most of the dark under belly of the deep state and swamp creatures. Now we know who they are. It appears that most congress critters are swamp creature, but none more slimy and ugly than the democrats. We have learned that the deep state doesn't just overthrow foreign governments, it's been turned on its own citizens. Until this election has been declared by counting all the legitimate votes and throwing out all the illegal ballots, I'm rooting for President Trump's re-election. I've donated to his legal fund. Like the democrats in 2016, I won't recognize the Biden/Harris administration as legitimate. NOT MY PRESIDENT.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:33 pm
by philip964
If and when every legal vote is counted and every illegal vote is thrown out the election is over. Until then it is not over. If we allow an election to stand with illegal votes deciding the winner, we are no longer a Republic, but just another country with a dictator.

Does anyone really believe Biden received more votes than Obama ever did?

I am disappointed it was not a landslide for Trump, but it actually may have been. We may never know.

I suspect if this is the final outcome, they will probably look here first to find guns to confiscate.

No doubt all the future posts here will be about the proposed restrictions to our 2nd Amendment rights.

May be I'm not as sad now about that boating accident last month.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:56 pm
by Grayling813
mayor wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:21 am huh? it isn't over until it's over. I agree that the President did expose most of the dark under belly of the deep state and swamp creatures. Now we know who they are. It appears that most congress critters are swamp creature, but none more slimy and ugly than the democrats. We have learned that the deep state doesn't just overthrow foreign governments, it's been turned on its own citizens. Until this election has been declared by counting all the legitimate votes and throwing out all the illegal ballots, I'm rooting for President Trump's re-election. I've donated to his legal fund. Like the democrats in 2016, I won't recognize the Biden/Harris administration as legitimate. NOT MY PRESIDENT.
:iagree: If the Speaker of the House can publicly declare a Constitutionally appointed Supreme Court Justice as “illegitimate”, then I declare Biden/Harris to have cheated and illegitimately assumed the offices.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:17 pm
by RSX11
Well, if it does turn out finally that Biden wins, I look forward to saying "You wanted this" to my lefty associates, when the stock market plummets, unemployment goes up and Houston is crippled by the government deprecating the oil industry.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:52 pm
by J.R.@A&M
RSX11 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:17 pm Well, if it does turn out finally that Biden wins, I look forward to saying "You wanted this" to my lefty associates, when the stock market plummets, unemployment goes up and Houston is crippled by the government deprecating the oil industry.
Those bad outcomes depend on how the Georgia Senate run-offs go. If McConnell is still majority leader, the stock market will probably continue to climb, as it did Wed-Friday in anticipation of gridlock. Republican Senate means no green new deal, no court packing, no tax increases, and no other socialist ballshut legislation.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:11 pm
by Grayling813
J.R.@A&M wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:52 pm
RSX11 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:17 pm Well, if it does turn out finally that Biden wins, I look forward to saying "You wanted this" to my lefty associates, when the stock market plummets, unemployment goes up and Houston is crippled by the government deprecating the oil industry.
Those bad outcomes depend on how the Georgia Senate run-offs go. If McConnell is still majority leader, the stock market will probably continue to climb, as it did Wed-Friday in anticipation of gridlock. Republican Senate means no green new deal, no court packing, no tax increases, and no other socialist ballshut legislation.
You’re assuming that Romney plus other RINOs aren’t going to go along with the Communists. McConnell has his finger in the air looking for the direction he needs to go in order to retain his power.

Mr. Franklin, we failed to keep the Republic.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:17 pm
by J.R.@A&M
Grayling813 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:11 pm
J.R.@A&M wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:52 pm
RSX11 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:17 pm Well, if it does turn out finally that Biden wins, I look forward to saying "You wanted this" to my lefty associates, when the stock market plummets, unemployment goes up and Houston is crippled by the government deprecating the oil industry.
Those bad outcomes depend on how the Georgia Senate run-offs go. If McConnell is still majority leader, the stock market will probably continue to climb, as it did Wed-Friday in anticipation of gridlock. Republican Senate means no green new deal, no court packing, no tax increases, and no other socialist ballshut legislation.
You’re assuming that Romney plus other RINOs aren’t going to go along with the Communists. McConnell has his finger in the air looking for the direction he needs to go in order to retain his power.

Mr. Franklin, we failed to keep the Republic.
Not only am I assuming that, I think recently elected Democrats from Montana and other area probably/hopefully would get peeled off in opposition to stupid, job killing green new deal proposals.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:03 pm
by BigGuy
If this stands, then Bidden will be my President. Unfortunately my President will be an immoral, socialist, dirt bag.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:29 pm
by parabelum
Another thing is, aside from Biden, if you consider his votes legitimate, Trump received more votes than any other president in the US history, including Obama.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:34 pm
by carlson1
If this ends with President Trump winning it is still sad that The Great United States of America has went down far enough that is was so close. We have a generation of people voting that their history doesn’t go past Bill Clinton. Once again what a sad thing that we have allowed our public schools to be taken from us.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:41 pm
by parabelum
carlson1 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:34 pm If this ends with President Trump winning it is still sad that The Great United States of America has went down far enough that is was so close. We have a generation of people voting that their history doesn’t go past Bill Clinton. Once again what a sad thing that we have allowed our public schools to be taken from us.
100%. Absolute disgrace.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:00 pm
by Rafe
carlson1 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:34 pm If this ends with President Trump winning it is still sad that The Great United States of America has went down far enough that is was so close. We have a generation of people voting that their history doesn’t go past Bill Clinton. Once again what a sad thing that we have allowed our public schools to be taken from us.
Actually, to put this in perspective, in this election we had, for the first time, a generation of voters who were not yet born when terrorists brought down the World Trade Center, which was the last time we saw the true nature of bipartisanship immediately after when every Washington politician joined hands in solidarity against a national enemy. A generation whose high school experience included no view, no personal perspective of the presidency that wasn't the unending vitriol of the Democrats lashing out at President Trump, years of Russia collusion allegations, and an expensive and meaningless impeachment sideshow.

Re: post-election reflection

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:40 am
by MaduroBU
the last time we saw the true nature of bipartisanship immediately after when every Washington politician joined hands in solidarity against a national enemy.
To be fair, that lasted like 6 months.