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1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act. [i.e. take our guns and normal capacity magazines, included pistol magazines for LTC]

Hold gun manufacturers accountable. In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection. [i.e. let gun manufacturers be sued out of existence]

Close the “hate crime loophole.” [these days "hate crimes" are anything]

End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.

Incentivize state “extreme risk” laws. [arbitrarily deny constitutional rights]

Give states incentives to set up gun licensing programs. [what part of infringed do they not understand]

Put America on the path to ensuring that 100% of firearms sold in America are smart guns.[that don't exist]

Stop “ghost guns.” [i.e. you can't build your own firearms without a background check]

In the Communist Manifesto and The German Ideology, he defined marriage as legalized prostitution and a form of female slavery.

But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.”

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:52 pm One of my anti Trump Facebook friends posted this about what the Dems believe and want:


“YES!
Just a note for my right leaning family and friends from my left leaning self as we near voting day:

They say we want to disband police departments (and that we hate the police): we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and unnecessary police brutality and for those who abuse their power to be held accountable.

They say we want to release all prisoners: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and ensure the punishments match the crimes and to deprivatize prisons.

They say we want open borders: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want asylum seekers to be given their chance to seek asylum. We want to help people who are coming from unimaginable terror and poverty help to give them the chances we have. We want to ensure children aren’t separated from their parents and that nobody is kept in cages. But we do want proper vetting.

They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun control to help prevent mass shootings.

They say we want to wage a war on Christianity and Christian values: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all religions to be able to practice and worship freely.

They say we want to get everything for free: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to work hard and make sure that healthcare and education are affordable for all.

They say we want a war against traditional marriage: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all sexual orientations to be able to love freely, no matter who you love.

They say we want to destroy or rewrite history: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to recognize the ugly parts of our past and do everything we can to say “that’s not okay, let’s not honor those aggressors, let’s not let those things happen again”.

They say we want to take away your constitutional rights: we don’t, that’s a lie. We choose to believe science and wear masks and try to prevent the spread of this disease.

They say we hate America: we don’t, that’s a lie. We just recognize our faults and want us to do better, be better.

Stop with the us vs. them. Stop with the fake news. Stop with Fox News. Our position is one of empathy, compassion and logic. Stop believing the hype. Stop with the division. Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.

***Copy and paste; I did***”

Anyone want to fact check this against the Dem platform.

They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun control to help prevent mass shootings.

srothstein wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:13 pm I don't think a fact checker can properly say they are lies by comparing to the Communist Manifesto because the Demecrats do not admit to being Communists. I am sure the person who copied and pasted probably thinks of himself as a compassionate person. I may believe that the leaders of the party are all wanting communism or at least socialism, but the question is if they are lies based on the DNC Party platform.

I don't know if I can say they are lies based on the wording of the platform because the platform does not define terms the same way I do. For example, in the one line we all do not believe, they claim:

They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun control to help prevent mass shootings.

I claim they are trying to take away my guns if they are trying to take away any of them and they claim it is not taking away my guns because they are letting me keep some of them. I could also claim there is no such thing as logical gun control and no gun control will stop the mass shootings. I would also claim it is a lie by posting quotes from as far back as 1995 with Dianne Feinstein to 2019 with Beto Rodriguez both saying they would collect/ban all assault weapons.

Many of the other claims are of similar nature: the definition of the terms is critical to the argument. The biggest one I see as a clear lie is the claim that they don't want free things. The party calls for a move towards what they call single payer heathcare. They want to provide health insurance to every person in the US free. The honest ones recognize it is not single payer but a tax increase where everyone who works is paying, so it is hard to say the claim is a lie even though I define it as a lie.

Said Pence: "Last week, Joe Biden did not say one word about the violence and chaos engulfing cities across this country.

"Joe Biden says that America is systemically racist, and that law enforcement in America has... 'implicit bias against minorities.' When asked whether he'd support cutting funding to law enforcement, Joe Biden replied, 'Yes, absolutely.'