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Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:26 pm
by JakeTheSnake
Don’t attempt to defend your property?
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:32 pm
by clarionite
JakeTheSnake wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:26 pm
Don’t attempt to defend your property?
Thankfully I don't live in an area where there's likely to be many of these protests. But me not defending my property isn't very likely. In my neighborhood more than likely there would be many of us on the roofs heavily armed if looters were to attempt that here.
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:27 pm
by Ruark
If somebody is outside your house throwing bricks through your windows, is that a legal justification for using deadly force?
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:49 pm
by AF-Odin
Think the word was "proactively defend." You want to march and chant, fine. I will not be in the defensive position on overwatch nor will I be marching around with my rifle. However, the moment you start destroying my stuff and threatening me, I am not proactive, but reactive.
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:12 pm
by powerboatr
so DPD wants you to run and hide? the bricks through a window, i know how that would roll in my area. thanks for the updates, happy i have business in dallas in future
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:14 pm
by rtschl
And the progressive liberal Dallas DA will probably let them go like last night: The following was reported by Fox 4 news reporter on Twitter:
Allison Harris
@AllisonFox4News
BREAKING: Sources tell me Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot is refusing to take the charge for the protesters who are being arrested, as in he is trying to let them loose. We do not have a statement from the DA's office at this time.
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:21 pm
by powerboatr
rtschl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:14 pm
And the progressive liberal Dallas DA will probably let them go like last night: The following was reported by Fox 4 news reporter on Twitter:
Allison Harris
@AllisonFox4News
BREAKING: Sources tell me Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot is refusing to take the charge for the protesters who are being arrested, as in he is trying to let them loose. We do not have a statement from the DA's office at this time.
unreal. the DA is part of the problem and isn't he now committing a crime? rioters should be held without bail until the riots stop. I am sure there is a legal precedent to hold them without bail..
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:30 pm
by RoyGBiv
Ruark wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:27 pm
If somebody is outside your house throwing bricks through your windows, is that a legal justification for using deadly force?
Daytime or nighttime?
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:37 pm
by philip964
Don’t want to do bad things at night in Texas.
Maybe some one should post the law again about using deadly force at night.
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:15 pm
by crazy2medic
Thursday Night i'll be guarding a building downtown Ft Worth, the reason i'm there is to guard the building! I will be taking my shotgun with me until this craziness stops
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:29 pm
by JakeTheSnake
AF-Odin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:49 pm
Think the word was "proactively defend." You want to march and chant, fine. I will not be in the defensive position on overwatch nor will I be marching around with my rifle. However, the moment you start destroying my stuff and threatening me, I am not proactive, but reactive.
Oh, so stuff happens.
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:47 pm
by E10
RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:30 pm
Ruark wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:27 pm
If somebody is outside your house throwing bricks through your windows, is that a legal justification for using deadly force?
Daytime or nighttime?
First, IANAL, and this is certainly not legal advice. I would not recommend it, but the penal code says deadly force is justified...
'to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or
criminal mischief during the nighttime'
I suppose throwing bricks would qualify, but you can't shoot after they've thrown the brick (or Molotov cocktail, too, which could be arson) and are running away. I would think you gotta catch them after the forward motion has begun (remember the "Tuck Rule" in the NFL?).
Re: Dallas June 2 - planned protest update
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:20 am
by longtooth
E10 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:47 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:30 pm
Ruark wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:27 pm
If somebody is outside your house throwing bricks through your windows, is that a legal justification for using deadly force?
Daytime or nighttime?
First, IANAL, and this is certainly not legal advice. I would not recommend it, but the penal code says deadly force is justified...
'to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or
criminal mischief during the nighttime'
I suppose throwing bricks would qualify, but you can't shoot after they've thrown the brick (or Molotov cocktail, too, which could be arson) and are running away. I would think you gotta catch them after the forward motion has begun (remember the "Tuck Rule" in the NFL?).
I am no football fan at all. What is the "Tuck Rule" and how will it apply.