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We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:46 am
by thatguyoverthere
Remember the "good ol' days" when we used to say: "Big Brother is Watching." ? Here's just one more example of the fact that he's doing much more than just "watching" now...
Court Rules Defendant Must Disclose Phone Password to Police and Prosecution in First Ruling of Its Kind in State
https://www.newsweek.com/court-rules-de ... nd-1466112

Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:57 am
by Jago668
That's going to run up hard on a previous SCOTUS ruling. I don't know how they managed to twist their logic.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/25/justice/ ... index.html

Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:29 am
by narcissist
" the age of increasing encryption, courts have been asked to order suspects to give up their fingerprints, face scans and passwords to unlock phones that could lead to make-or-break evidence in a case."
Big brother is always watching and they do indeed store all your texts/phone calls ect. In databases.

Only use Encrypted Devices, never use fingerprints or face scans on your devices!

As far as the password goes they are overstepping once again. How exactly can they Force you to disclose the password? Water boarding or some other kind of torture?
Depends on whats on that phone it may be best to just say no, wonder how long they could keep you locked up if you didn't comply?

Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:40 am
by flintknapper
narcissist wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:29 am
" the age of increasing encryption, courts have been asked to order suspects to give up their fingerprints, face scans and passwords to unlock phones that could lead to make-or-break evidence in a case."
Only use Encrypted Devices, never use fingerprints or face scans on your devices!
^^^^^ Sage advice.

Or in the case of a simple 'password'....I would just tell them 'I can't remember it'. ;-)

Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:04 am
by WildBill
Jago668 wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:57 am That's going to run up hard on a previous SCOTUS ruling. I don't know how they managed to twist their logic.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/25/justice/ ... index.html
It's pretty easy - you just decide which way you want to rule and then make up the reasons for your decision that support your ruling.

Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:57 pm
by E.Marquez
Password? Oh ya its 2.
WHAT?? that did not work, ok it must be 4 then..NO? Well darn, guess I forgot it.... prove otherwise.....

Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' 5th Amendment!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:25 pm
by flintknapper
E.Marquez wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:57 pm Password? Oh ya its 2.
WHAT?? that did not work, ok it must be 4 then..NO? Well darn, guess I forgot it.... prove otherwise.....
^^^^^

There ya go! :iagree: