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Audio: Gun sellers recount people they denied a gun purchase.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:51 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4qit4g--M

The above link is one of the "tell reddit" episodes. For those unfamiliar with these, a question is posed to the reddit.com audience, and redditors then respond with anecdotes about the question. There's scores of these, posing many questions, and people recount all kinds of anecdotes.

Well, the link above is 13 minutes, 44 seconds long (all audio, no video or photos). An automated voice, sounding British, reads the responses. He mispronounces many of the words, but is perfectly understandable. He thinks "Facebook" is "fassa-book". Haha.

I found it quite interesting that most of the FFL's, if they are going to deny a sale because the person is some sort of problem child, will have the customer fill out a 4473 first. They then deny the sale, and with the 4473 information, LEO's may then follow up. But even if the LEO's are not involved, the system now knows that this person is a problem. To tell the truth, I don't know if a person denied a purchase after a 4473 has been filled out, will actually be flagged in some kind of a BATFE system.

You just won't believe some of the sketchy people who open their big mouths, fill out the 4473, then get immediately denied.

SIA

Re: Audio: Gun sellers recount people they denied a gun purchase.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:09 pm
by jb2012
surprise_i'm_armed wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:51 pm
You just won't believe some of the sketchy people who open their big mouths, fill out the 4473, then get immediately denied.

SIA
I can attest to this, as well as the crazy things I’ve been told before asking to rent a gun. Would you believe that people would have the audacity to walk into a gun range, ask to rent a gun, and ask if they can purchase just one bullet...

Re: Audio: Gun sellers recount people they denied a gun purchase.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:59 am
by mrvmax
FYI during ATF audits the IOI looks at every denied 4473. I’ve only had 3 denials in 9 years and I don’t recall if they copied the 4473 info of those denied but I assume they do.

Re: Audio: Gun sellers recount people they denied a gun purchase.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:13 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
mrvmax:

Please define "IOI'. Thank you.

SIA

Re: Audio: Gun sellers recount people they denied a gun purchase.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:21 pm
by GeekwithaGun
surprise_i'm_armed wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:13 pm mrvmax:

Please define "IOI'. Thank you.

SIA
Industry Operations Investigator
https://www.atf.gov/careers/becoming-in ... vestigator

Re: Audio: Gun sellers recount people they denied a gun purchase.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:25 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
Thank you for the quick response.

SIA