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Traitor

Traitor.

Deserves no other articulation.

I just signed the petition to Governor Greg Abbott to bind our electoral college to popular vote:

https://www.change.org/p/govenor-greg-a ... pular-vote?

Bitter Clinger wrote:I just signed the petition to Governor Greg Abbott to bind our electoral college to popular vote:

https://www.change.org/p/govenor-greg-a ... pular-vote?

I just signed it.

Signed

Signed.

I heard somewhere that this would be the first time that Texas has had a faithless elector. Is that true?

The Annoyed Man wrote:I heard somewhere that this would be the first time that Texas has had a faithless elector. Is that true?

I have read that more than once that Texas never has...

What a moron.

He is not voting for Trump because he wants to "elect a President and not a King". And he thinks the best way to do this is by having a handful of electors subvert the will of the voter and just pick whoever they personally want?

This isn't a carnival like the Democratic primary with their super-delegates. We are talking about the foundation of our Republic, here. So much for the peaceful transition of power.

Signed.

OTOH, the electors do have the authority to vote for whomever they please according to whatever principles or beliefs they may hold. Otherwise, why do we have the Electoral College? Why not just automatically assign the electoral vote of the the state to the winning candidate and skip the Electoral College vote completely?

Personally, that's my preference. Skip the Electoral College shenanigans and just declare that the winning candidate gets the votes. Done!

Signed. Using the excuse that he received hundreds of letters, phone call and emails to not follow the voters choice just shows what a dolt he is. Of course he's received communications from the whiners to change his vote. The voters who gave Trump Texas' Electoral votes expect him to be faithful so why would they email him to do his duty. He says he's fine with the Electoral College, but I would ask him why should Texans bother to vote if he gets to decide who gets the Electoral vote regardless of the outcome. I think he's confused about who wants to be a king. He should be publicly run out of the party the moment he casts his vote.

Signed!

He seems to think he knows what's best for the rest of us, that alone makes me angry!

crazy2medic wrote:Signed!

He seems to think he knows what's best for the rest of us, that alone makes me angry!

Because he is a native New Yorker I wonder if there may be something in his background where he has had bad experience with Trump, Inc. Or because he's a New Yorker he just believes that what he thinks is the right thing for everyone else.

There's another name for northerners who come to the South and act like they know what's best for us...carpetbagger!

der Teufel wrote:OTOH, the electors do have the authority to vote for whomever they please according to whatever principles or beliefs they may hold. Otherwise, why do we have the Electoral College? Why not just automatically assign the electoral vote of the the state to the winning candidate and skip the Electoral College vote completely?

Personally, that's my preference. Skip the Electoral College shenanigans and just declare that the winning candidate gets the votes. Done!

Nope. That is a horrible idea. There is a VERY GOOD REASON for the existence of the electoral college.

Consider a parallel example........... Think of it as a sports analogy using major league baseball's world series. The world series consists of 7 separate games, of which the winning team must win 4 or more to win the championship. Let's say that it's a 7 game series, and it goes like this:

AL / NL score

Game 1: 15 / 3
Game 2: 14 / 5
Game 3: 10 / 2
Game 4: 0 / 2
Game 5: 2 / 5
Game 6: 5 / 6
Game 7: 3 / 4

In that situation, the NL team won the series, because it won 4 of the 7 games. That's analogous to electoral college vote. But the losing AL team scored a total of 48 points in the series to the winning team's 27 points. How can a team score MORE points in the series and still lose? It's because it isn't total points that matter, it is games won.

In this analogy, winning or losing a game is the same as winning or losing a state. Total points scored is the same as the popular vote. Go read your copy of the Constitution. The people don't elect a president. The STATES elect the president. The popular vote in each state serves to determine how the state will vote, but it's the state that votes, not the people. There's only 50 states plus DC, and they each have a number of electors equal to their congressional representation. So winning the general election means putting together the combination of states you can win in, with enough electoral votes between them to meet or exceed 270 votes.

This system exists SPECIFICALLY to protect the interests of states with lower populations when it comes to selecting a president who is supposed to represent all the people. Without the electoral college, states with smaller populations become unimportant. California's voters outnumber Texas' voters. Add in the leftist northeaster states with their high populations, and you can kiss the Constitution goodbye if the electoral college is ever abolished.

If that's what you want, then keep advocating for an elimination of the electoral college. OTH, if you love the Constitution and place a high value on its protections of your rights - particularly your 1st and 2nd amendment rights - you MUST support the electoral college. There are TWO kinds of tyranny: the tyranny of the majority, and the tyranny of the minority. The electoral college exists EXACTLY to prevent either kinds of tyranny.