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Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:55 am
by northexpedition
Oregon occupation: Militia 'willing to kill or be killed' occupy US wildlife reserve
A group of militiamen have occupied a wildlife refuge in Oregon, it has been reported.
The self-proclaimed “patriots”, say they have around 150 members stationed in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, The Oregonian reports. Their leader has reportedly informed local press that the men are planning to stay in the refuge indefinitely and are “willing to kill or be killed” to do so.
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:23 am
by rbwhatever1
I've been following this one. 2 men served time for arson stemming from clearing land to clear invasive weeds and avoid wildfires. One served 4 months and one served 1 year. Judge says it wasn't long enough so ordered both men back to jail to serve 4 years each. They will both peacefully report to prison on Jan 4th for the new prison term...
http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/ ... uge-action
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/03/bu ... lding.html
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:24 am
by TVGuy
Saw this earlier this morning. Not sure what to think of it yet.
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:14 am
by C-dub
The two guys, brothers, were convicted of arson because they burned off some brush on their own land? Or does the fed think it is public/fed/BLM land?
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:15 am
by Richbirdhunter
Ron Paul approves of this protest.
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:18 am
by jmra
C-dub wrote:The two guys, brothers, were convicted of arson because they burned off some brush on their own land? Or does the fed think it is public/fed/BLM land?
I think it was a father and son (one is 73 the other is 46).
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:21 am
by C-dub
Maybe it was this that threw me off.
The brothers have been convicted of arson but maintain that they were entitled to set fire to land as they were doing so to reduce growth of invasive plants and protecting their property from the threat of wildfires
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:34 am
by jmra
C-dub wrote:Maybe it was this that threw me off.
The brothers have been convicted of arson but maintain that they were entitled to set fire to land as they were doing so to reduce growth of invasive plants and protecting their property from the threat of wildfires
Got to love reporters:
"Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires. The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time — the father three months, the son one year."
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:42 am
by mamabearCali
How is it that a judge can add time after a sentence has been completed.
I don't really know enough to say anything intelligent here. Just that I am watching with interest.
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:09 am
by suthdj
mamabearCali wrote:How is it that a judge can add time after a sentence has been completed.
I don't really know enough to say anything intelligent here. Just that I am watching with interest.
Maybe violation of probation
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:24 am
by suthdj
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:50 am
by Mike S
C-dub wrote:The two guys, brothers, were convicted of arson because they burned off some brush on their own land? Or does the fed think it is public/fed/BLM land?
They were convicted of arson for setting fire to Federal land that bordered theirs. This was while firefighters were battling another wildfire that was burning nearby, & reportedly their fire put them at risk.
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:54 am
by Mike S
mamabearCali wrote:How is it that a judge can add time after a sentence has been completed.
I don't really know enough to say anything intelligent here. Just that I am watching with interest.
An appeals court judge found that the original judge didn't follow the sentencing guidelines he was required to use, & gave less than the minimum sentence. Both father & son say they'll report back to complete the new sentences, and said that they don't want the militia's 'assistance' on this.
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:59 am
by Right2Carry
Wasn't this Bundy guy involved in another standoff in the past couple of years on his ranch with the BLM?
Re: Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:08 am
by cheezit
Yes its the same guy.