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NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:17 pm
by JJVP
The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.
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Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:40 pm
by Beiruty
JJVP wrote:
The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... ourt-order" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Are you smelling the coffee? Good morning, young jedi.
:woohoo

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:53 am
by Wes
NSA, DOJ, IRS, ATF...my word...it's a mad house washingtons running.

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:00 am
by surprise_i'm_armed
Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

SIA

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:14 am
by Excaliber
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

SIA
I suspect it's not just Verizon. Verizon resisted the order and the story came about because a court ruled against it. There's no mention of companies that simply complied.

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:46 am
by Purplehood
Excaliber wrote:
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

SIA
I suspect it's not just Verizon. Verizon resisted the order and the story came about because a court ruled against it. There's no mention of companies that simply complied.
Good point. That had not occurred to me.

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:03 am
by suthdj
They changed the plaque on the Statue of Liberty.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses So we can show them the face of tyranny!

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:11 am
by jayinsat
1st Amendment: Gone
2nd Amendment: Gone
4th Amendment: Gone
10th Amendment: Long Gone
Constitution: Shredded

Tyranny ushered in with a round of applause! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:44 am
by Purplehood
suthdj wrote:They changed the plaque on the Statue of Liberty.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses So we can show them the face of tyranny!

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses as we can always use more...cause things aren't gonna change around here anytime soon."

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:32 am
by 2firfun50
jayinsat wrote:1st Amendment: Gone
2nd Amendment: Gone
4th Amendment: Gone
10th Amendment: Long Gone
Constitution: Shredded

Tyranny ushered in with a round of applause! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
With the terrorists leading 42-3 late in the 4th quarter we'll take a break for important news from Washington.

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:36 am
by Abraham
I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:44 am
by The Annoyed Man
Abraham wrote:I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
But then there's the occasional nugget...."You know Joe, that buffoon in the oval office is a fascist so and so, and he's going to get us all killed. After all, he targets American citizens with drones, using a policy that does not specifically bar such actions inside of the United States."

I've had plenty of those kinds of conversations with friends of mine. Does anybody seriously think that people like me haven't been bumped from the "general filtration" list to the "merits further spying upon" list? And I'm a Verizon customer by the way. I am due for a phone upgrade this month, and my wife is due in September. I'm seriously considering switching carriers and phone numbers anyway at this point, due to some general dissatisfaction issues with Verizon. Maybe it's time to give due consideration to other reasons in my decision making.

Are AT&T and the other providers any more or less cooperative with the 4th Reich than Verizon? It's a powerful incentive to start restricting such conversations to face-to-face encounters in areas reasonably secure from goobermint intrusion....

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:34 am
by powerboatr
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Abraham wrote:I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
But then there's the occasional nugget...."You know Joe, that buffoon in the oval office is a fascist so and so, and he's going to get us all killed. After all, he targets American citizens with drones, using a policy that does not specifically bar such actions inside of the United States."

I've had plenty of those kinds of conversations with friends of mine. Does anybody seriously think that people like me haven't been bumped from the "general filtration" list to the "merits further spying upon" list? And I'm a Verizon customer by the way. I am due for a phone upgrade this month, and my wife is due in September. I'm seriously considering switching carriers and phone numbers anyway at this point, due to some general dissatisfaction issues with Verizon. Maybe it's time to give due consideration to other reasons in my decision making.

Are AT&T and the other providers any more or less cooperative with the 4th Reich than Verizon? It's a powerful incentive to start restricting such conversations to face-to-face encounters in areas reasonably secure from goobermint intrusion....
4th Reich :iagree:

patriot act really has been abused and abused, fox was just reporting that the PRES (current one) signed off on widening the cell snooping
next it will be drones near my house or black suburbans on my road
Its deplorable to say the least

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:43 am
by jayinsat
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Abraham wrote:I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
But then there's the occasional nugget...."You know Joe, that buffoon in the oval office is a fascist so and so, and he's going to get us all killed. After all, he targets American citizens with drones, using a policy that does not specifically bar such actions inside of the United States."

I've had plenty of those kinds of conversations with friends of mine. Does anybody seriously think that people like me haven't been bumped from the "general filtration" list to the "merits further spying upon" list? And I'm a Verizon customer by the way. I am due for a phone upgrade this month, and my wife is due in September. I'm seriously considering switching carriers and phone numbers anyway at this point, due to some general dissatisfaction issues with Verizon. Maybe it's time to give due consideration to other reasons in my decision making.

Are AT&T and the other providers any more or less cooperative with the 4th Reich than Verizon? It's a powerful incentive to start restricting such conversations to face-to-face encounters in areas reasonably secure from goobermint intrusion....
Yes. Yes they are. Verizon is the one who was resisting and has now been ordered to comply by the court of law. Welcome to the USSA. :patriot:

Re: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans da

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:08 am
by 2firfun50
Excaliber wrote:
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

SIA
I suspect it's not just Verizon. Verizon resisted the order and the story came about because a court ruled against it. There's no mention of companies that simply complied.
Since all electronic communication companies exist at the pleasure of the FCC, I'm sure they will comply in one form or another.