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The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:02 pm
by MoJo
There have been a lot of posts asking "Can I use my gun if ______________ happens."

Here's a link to an article written by Evan Marshall a retired Detroit Police Sgt. Where he examines the dangers of intervening in someone else's fight.

http://www.stoppingpower.net/commentary ... ention.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:26 pm
by davidtx
Excellent! Everybody should read this.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:51 pm
by 57Coastie
davidtx wrote:Excellent! Everybody should read this.
Agreed. Every time a forum member posts "would you shoot?" or something similar he/she should be immediately sent a copy of this article.

Jim

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:53 pm
by gtrman66
Thanks for posting! Good stuff.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:19 pm
by joe817
57Coastie wrote:
davidtx wrote:Excellent! Everybody should read this.
Agreed. Every time a forum member posts "would you shoot?" or something similar he/she should be immediately sent a copy of this article.

Jim

Totally agree Jim! This is a must read. Thanks for posting MoJo!

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:54 pm
by cougartex
This should be required reading for all. Thanks for posting. :thumbs2:

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:26 am
by thelurker
Agreed...this really puts the potential ramifications of intervening into perspective! Thanks for sharing.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:24 am
by Lumberjack98
Great read!

Thank you.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:41 am
by PX4 Pirtle
Great read! Thanks for posting mojo.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:47 am
by J Wilson
Good read,THANX

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:08 am
by bdickens
MoJo wrote:There have been a lot of posts asking "Can I use my gun if ______________ happens."

Here's a link to an article written by Evan Marshall a retired Detroit Police Sgt. Where he examines the dangers of intervening in someone else's fight.

http://www.stoppingpower.net/commentary ... ention.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My standard answer to the "would you shoot if _______?" kinds of questions is "it depends."

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:15 am
by suthdj
The story was about intervention not "would you shoot if". Now after reading the story how many of you would behave like those security guards did in that video of the girl getting her face kicked and stomped? All this story tells me is we need better laws to protect people who act in good faith as a "good samaritan".

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:44 am
by casingpoint
we need better laws to protect people who act in good faith as a "good samaritan".
All that is necessary is for the castle doctrine and an accompanying liability exclusion be expanded to apply outside the home and business.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:44 pm
by C-dub
I'm sure I've read this before, but it is a great reminder. His thoughts on carrying now and when he would shoot are also mine.

Re: The dangers of intervention

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:03 pm
by MoJo
suthdj wrote:The story was about intervention not "would you shoot if". Now after reading the story how many of you would behave like those security guards did in that video of the girl getting her face kicked and stomped? All this story tells me is we need better laws to protect people who act in good faith as a "good Samaritan".
A: I posted this to answer the myriad of when can I shoot someone posts that have been appeating lately.

B: I am not advocating nor am I discouraging someone to step in and do the right thing.

C: Texas has a good Samaritan law I'm not sure if it applies to CHLs.

D: If anyone needs shooting in the story about the teen age girl it's the insecurity guards. Not one of them would "man up" and try to stop the fracas.

I posted this because intervention, especially armed intervention, is a slippery slope.

My answer to the question of when can I draw my gun/shoot is - - - when you know in your heart that it's the right thing to do and not before. We all have to balance our moral responsibility with our legal constraints. It's a Concealed Handgun License not a Jr. Cop Licsense.