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Anybody have any feelings on the closing of GITMO?

I know I dont want them released back to their home countries so they can just become an active terrorist again and I sure dont want them being in our prison systems recruiting Americans to their cause and on American soil in American cities. They are POWs and belong in GITMO!!!

Obama and anyone who wants to close Gitmo are idiots.

I tried not to sugarcoat my comment.

Anygunanywhere

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama and anyone who wants to close Gitmo are idiots.

I tried not to sugarcoat my comment.

Anygunanywhere

Looks pretty sugarcoated to me.

Wildscar wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama and anyone who wants to close Gitmo are idiots.

I tried not to sugarcoat my comment.

Anygunanywhere

Looks pretty sugarcoated to me.

10 yo daughter rule.

Anygunanywhere

It's not unexpected, and the prisoner facilitys day were pretty much numbered anyway, Mc Cain promised to do the same thing. Bush would likely have closed the place down in a few months anyway. What ticks me off about the whole thing though is that the charges of torture go unchallanged, and the whole Obama nation seems to accept that we were evily torturing prisoners in the most sadistic way. That these Jihadist were poor innocent victims. While some might worry about 'Him' taking away our guns. I believe that the biggest evil this man is going to do is that him and his leftist cronies are rewriting history and going to get away with it.

Newt, where are you when we need you!!

I am an idiot. I did not want Gitmo to function in the manner that it has for the last two administrations.

It is my belief that those personages of a disreputable-nature that are being held there should be treated like combatants, and that we should not have tried to come up with a new category for them.

In my opinion, they are no different than combatants that we might have referred to in the past as:

- Militia
- Partisans
- Guerrillas

No extraordinary new rules and systems should have been created to handle them. Try them, convict them, stick them in Leavenworth till they die. BTW, I could care less what they "do" to the rest of the prison population.

Suppose Eric Holder declares you a terrorist and throws you in GITMO. Without having jurisdiction for habeas corpus or even access to a lawyer what are you going to do about it? We can just trust that everyone there deserves to be there right?

They are not militia, partisans, or freedom fighters. They are scumbag terrorists. Lowly animals have more sense of right or wrong than they do even when they are eating their young. Those scumbag bottom feeders would cut your spouse and children's heads off in your living room and laugh at you while doing so. These terrorists make the worst on Texas death row look like ministers. I refuse to accept any notion that they have any rights. They gave theirs up when they pledged whatever alegiance to whatever higher power they bow down to, and their higher power is not the same God I worship.

The fact that any elected or appointed government official would ever label any American CITIZEN as a terrorist to accomplish any goal counter to the US Constitution and BOR when that person has done nothing wrong does not deserve to enjoy life either and should be locked up in a Gitmo like prison and given a sun dress and spike heels.

If anyone has a problem understanding this then we will have to just do the old "agree to disagree" shuffle. You obviously have a much different belief system than I have and I do not care to live in your world.

Anygunanywhere

It's my understanding that the 9-11 mastermind is there, Khalid Shiek Mohammad(sp). So, if Holder has already stated that these prisoners were tortured, that means that the evidence obtained is inadmissable, right? How does Obama not just turn him loose? This dude has already admitted to being the mastermind and says he will do it again! Hmmm, any ideas on what to do with him?

I say deport them back to Iraq from 10K feet

Tie em together, open the back door...throw out the drag chute..gravity will handle the rest

anygunanywhere wrote:They are not militia, partisans, or freedom fighters. They are scumbag terrorists. Lowly animals have more sense of right or wrong than they do even when they are eating their young. Those scumbag bottom feeders would cut your spouse and children's heads off in your living room and laugh at you while doing so. These terrorists make the worst on Texas death row look like ministers. I refuse to accept any notion that they have any rights. They gave theirs up when they pledged whatever alegiance to whatever higher power they bow down to, and their higher power is not the same God I worship.

The fact that any elected or appointed government official would ever label any American CITIZEN as a terrorist to accomplish any goal counter to the US Constitution and BOR when that person has done nothing wrong does not deserve to enjoy life either and should be locked up in a Gitmo like prison and given a sun dress and spike heels.

If anyone has a problem understanding this then we will have to just do the old "agree to disagree" shuffle. You obviously have a much different belief system than I have and I do not care to live in your world.

Anygunanywhere

We have always felt that way about anyone that we fight. It comes down to this, they are an organized bunch of people that are trying to kill us. In those instances, we get our organized bunch of people that kill for a living to go after them, based on our time-honored rules. They are no better or no worse than Attila the Hun, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Idi Amin...just add Osama bin Laden to the list.

My entire philosophy is this...we don't change our principles based on someone else's actions. If it gratifies you to call them something other than the "enemy", more power to you.

Purplehood wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:They are not militia, partisans, or freedom fighters. They are scumbag terrorists. Lowly animals have more sense of right or wrong than they do even when they are eating their young. Those scumbag bottom feeders would cut your spouse and children's heads off in your living room and laugh at you while doing so. These terrorists make the worst on Texas death row look like ministers. I refuse to accept any notion that they have any rights. They gave theirs up when they pledged whatever alegiance to whatever higher power they bow down to, and their higher power is not the same God I worship.

The fact that any elected or appointed government official would ever label any American CITIZEN as a terrorist to accomplish any goal counter to the US Constitution and BOR when that person has done nothing wrong does not deserve to enjoy life either and should be locked up in a Gitmo like prison and given a sun dress and spike heels.

If anyone has a problem understanding this then we will have to just do the old "agree to disagree" shuffle. You obviously have a much different belief system than I have and I do not care to live in your world.

Anygunanywhere

We have always felt that way about anyone that we fight. It comes down to this, they are an organized bunch of people that are trying to kill us. In those instances, we get our organized bunch of people that kill for a living to go after them, based on our time-honored rules. They are no better or no worse than Attila the Hun, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Idi Amin...just add Osama bin Laden to the list.

My entire philosophy is this...we don't change our principles based on someone else's actions. If it gratifies you to call them something other than the "enemy", more power to you.

I will not be gratified until they cease to breathe clean air on this earth.

Anygunanywhere

anygunanywhere wrote: I will not be gratified until they cease to breathe <snip> air on this earth.

Anygunanywhere

fixed that one for you

Liberty wrote: I believe that the biggest evil this man is going to do is that him and his leftist cronies are rewriting history and going to get away with it.

Yep.
After all, those guys in Gitmo aren't Jihad terrorists, they're Freedom Fighters.

You know like William Ayers wasn't a terrorist bomber, he was a peace activist.

I hope no one is misunderstanding what I am saying. They are all the enemy. Treat them as such. They are not supernatural beings requiring supernatural remedies.

I had a wounded Taliban fighter not ten feet in front of me when serving along the Pakistan border. Looked like a hairy-nasty Pathan tribesman to me.

He was the enemy. Nothing more, nothing less.