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SigM4 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:39 am Maybe more people are using/contributing to the app? Which if true would stand to reason that more members would result in better reporting/coverage of an area.
As Jusme noted I haven’t seen any increase in the numbers of places posted, but I did notice a huge influx of new members on the app. Maybe Russell will comment on what they’re seeing.
SigM4 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:13 am After looking at the new entries it appears that one of the Mods is adding a lot of previously unidentified locations in SA. I’ve seen the same Mod do this for other areas. Not sure if he’s using Google Streetview to verify or if he does this as he’s out and about around the state.
Tex1961 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 am Not sure how this will play out, but I did manage to get a 51% sign removed over the weekend. Wife and I were going for brunch at a little bistro near our home. We've been going to this restaurant for several years. Anyway, as we were about to walk into the door I noticed a new shiny red 51% sign in the window. So I'm like say WHAT... so the door opens and a young man greets us and I ask him what's up with the sign?, and asked so when do you guys sell more alcohol than food? Your a bistro.. He wasn't too sure so I asked if he could get his manager and that I couldn't come in with that sign posted. He grabbed his manager and I asked him the same question and he was like I don't know, the owner just put it up this morning but yea, we don't sell hardly any alcohol here... He grabbed the sign off the window and bade us in to sit down and enjoy our brunch. I'll have to wait to go back to find out what is going on as the owner wasn't in so I couldn't ask what his intentions were... Hopefully just a misunderstanding and he doesn't want a 30.06....
Also, I believe that the TABC license is the determining factor, not the sign. Meaning if they are a Red sign location (>51% alcohol sales), then you are prohibited from carrying there regardless of their signage. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here.Jusme wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 pmTex1961 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 am Not sure how this will play out, but I did manage to get a 51% sign removed over the weekend. Wife and I were going for brunch at a little bistro near our home. We've been going to this restaurant for several years. Anyway, as we were about to walk into the door I noticed a new shiny red 51% sign in the window. So I'm like say WHAT... so the door opens and a young man greets us and I ask him what's up with the sign?, and asked so when do you guys sell more alcohol than food? Your a bistro.. He wasn't too sure so I asked if he could get his manager and that I couldn't come in with that sign posted. He grabbed his manager and I asked him the same question and he was like I don't know, the owner just put it up this morning but yea, we don't sell hardly any alcohol here... He grabbed the sign off the window and bade us in to sit down and enjoy our brunch. I'll have to wait to go back to find out what is going on as the owner wasn't in so I couldn't ask what his intentions were... Hopefully just a misunderstanding and he doesn't want a 30.06....
If they put the sign back up, contact the TABC, you can check their sign status on line. If it is not a red sign, they are in violation of the TABC code.
Yes. I did this on two separate occasions. You can report through the TABC App. In one case, a wine bar had a 51% and a BLUE sign both posted. The TABC guy actually called me for clarification and said he was going by the place to check it out. So, the system works (sometimes).Jusme wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 pmTex1961 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 am Not sure how this will play out, but I did manage to get a 51% sign removed over the weekend. Wife and I were going for brunch at a little bistro near our home. We've been going to this restaurant for several years. Anyway, as we were about to walk into the door I noticed a new shiny red 51% sign in the window. So I'm like say WHAT... so the door opens and a young man greets us and I ask him what's up with the sign?, and asked so when do you guys sell more alcohol than food? Your a bistro.. He wasn't too sure so I asked if he could get his manager and that I couldn't come in with that sign posted. He grabbed his manager and I asked him the same question and he was like I don't know, the owner just put it up this morning but yea, we don't sell hardly any alcohol here... He grabbed the sign off the window and bade us in to sit down and enjoy our brunch. I'll have to wait to go back to find out what is going on as the owner wasn't in so I couldn't ask what his intentions were... Hopefully just a misunderstanding and he doesn't want a 30.06....
If they put the sign back up, contact the TABC, you can check their sign status on line. If it is not a red sign, they are in violation of the TABC code.
I agree. Hopefully it would be a defense to prosecution if they posted incorrectly. But it is easy enough to look up a license status on the TABC website.Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:12 amAlso, I believe that the TABC license is the determining factor, not the sign. Meaning if they are a Red sign location (>51% alcohol sales), then you are prohibited from carrying there regardless of their signage. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here.Jusme wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 pmTex1961 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 am Not sure how this will play out, but I did manage to get a 51% sign removed over the weekend. Wife and I were going for brunch at a little bistro near our home. We've been going to this restaurant for several years. Anyway, as we were about to walk into the door I noticed a new shiny red 51% sign in the window. So I'm like say WHAT... so the door opens and a young man greets us and I ask him what's up with the sign?, and asked so when do you guys sell more alcohol than food? Your a bistro.. He wasn't too sure so I asked if he could get his manager and that I couldn't come in with that sign posted. He grabbed his manager and I asked him the same question and he was like I don't know, the owner just put it up this morning but yea, we don't sell hardly any alcohol here... He grabbed the sign off the window and bade us in to sit down and enjoy our brunch. I'll have to wait to go back to find out what is going on as the owner wasn't in so I couldn't ask what his intentions were... Hopefully just a misunderstanding and he doesn't want a 30.06....
If they put the sign back up, contact the TABC, you can check their sign status on line. If it is not a red sign, they are in violation of the TABC code.
oohrah wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:48 amI agree. Hopefully it would be a defense to prosecution if they posted incorrectly. But it is easy enough to look up a license status on the TABC website.Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:12 amAlso, I believe that the TABC license is the determining factor, not the sign. Meaning if they are a Red sign location (>51% alcohol sales), then you are prohibited from carrying there regardless of their signage. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here.Jusme wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 pmTex1961 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 am Not sure how this will play out, but I did manage to get a 51% sign removed over the weekend. Wife and I were going for brunch at a little bistro near our home. We've been going to this restaurant for several years. Anyway, as we were about to walk into the door I noticed a new shiny red 51% sign in the window. So I'm like say WHAT... so the door opens and a young man greets us and I ask him what's up with the sign?, and asked so when do you guys sell more alcohol than food? Your a bistro.. He wasn't too sure so I asked if he could get his manager and that I couldn't come in with that sign posted. He grabbed his manager and I asked him the same question and he was like I don't know, the owner just put it up this morning but yea, we don't sell hardly any alcohol here... He grabbed the sign off the window and bade us in to sit down and enjoy our brunch. I'll have to wait to go back to find out what is going on as the owner wasn't in so I couldn't ask what his intentions were... Hopefully just a misunderstanding and he doesn't want a 30.06....
If they put the sign back up, contact the TABC, you can check their sign status on line. If it is not a red sign, they are in violation of the TABC code.
Keep in mind that if it is a newer establishment, they haven't collected the actual receipts to determine their 51% status, so the TABC will make the BLUE or RED determination based on estimates, so it may actually be incorrect until they renew.
My guess, that page hasn't been updated in quite a while.Tex1961 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:15 pm https://www.tabc.texas.gov/texas-alcoho ... uirements/
Follow this link and tell me I’m wrong. When talking about signage they keep saying CONCEALED when talking red 51% sign. Umm it’s any firearm, not just concealed. My opinion is that they need to edit the wording.