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The Annoyed Man wrote:
longhorn_92 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
frazzled wrote:Clearly this thread needs to deviate and pronto to this:

Single malt scotch is fine. However I prefer a nice dark rum, or lighter rum and water myself.
Once again, we must respectfully disagree! Rum is for headaches. But Lagavulin lowland single malt scotch is the nectar of the gods. :smilelol5:

It has a deep, peaty, smokey flavor... ...real sippin' whiskey.
Would that be the Lagavulin (16 yr) or the Lagavulin (12 yr -Special Release)?...

I definitely prefer the Lagavulin 16...
might I also suggest the Laphroag (15 yr) - it comes from the Islay Region (as does the Lagavulin).

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That would be the 16 year old. I've never even tasted the 12 year old. Does the Laphroag have the same pronounced smokiness as the Lagavulin?
Sounds interesting. however, the budget for this is inversely proportional to all the little peieces of lead I throw downrange, else She Who Must Be Obeyed makes a ruling....that must be obeyed. :rules: So I'll keep with my relatively inexpensive rum.
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:tiphat: Beggin your pardon I am, but Is scotch a whisky or is it whiskey? :cheers2:
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Oldgringo wrote::tiphat: Beggin your pardon I am, but Is scotch a whisky or is it whiskey? :cheers2:
Actually, Scotch is Scotch, and whiskey (uisce beatha) is Irish.
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Well, this is interesting. We had a thread that where people were disagreeing on their views and really thinking they were different, and now just talking about getting together for a drink and what you like has calmed them down. Maybe Obama WAS right in getting Gates and Crowley together for a beer!! :lol:

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Now, as a side note, this has gone WAY off the OP's topic and needs to come back around.

I appreciate ALL of the views of members on this forum. While I may not agree with them all, I respect their right to their views and as long as it meets the guidelines of the forum, we allow it. I really like the fact that very heavy discussions like these can go on here in this forum and the members keep it civil and open. That shows we have a very mature group of members that don't join into a bunch of juvenile name calling and flame throwing. :thumbs2:
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Beggin yer guvna's pardon, but written in the King's English on my bottle of Macallan are these words: Single Highland Malt Scotch Whisky

Please note: Following the word "Scotch" is the word "Whisky" - obviously it doesn't simply end with nothing further written i.e., Scotch IS whisky and a fine one at that...

Now, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
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Abraham wrote:Beggin yer guvna's pardon, but written in the King's English on my bottle of Macallan are these words: Single Highland Malt Scotch Whisky

Please note: Following the word "Scotch" is the word "Whisky" - obviously it doesn't simply end with nothing further written i.e., Scotch IS whisky and a fine one at that...

Now, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
I agree... I've tried almost all mention, including a special bottling of 75 year MacAllan, and for my money, as a daily drinker, the MacAllan 12 is affordable and easy to love.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
longhorn_92 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
frazzled wrote:Clearly this thread needs to deviate and pronto to this:

Single malt scotch is fine. However I prefer a nice dark rum, or lighter rum and water myself.
Once again, we must respectfully disagree! Rum is for headaches. But Lagavulin lowland single malt scotch is the nectar of the gods. :smilelol5:

It has a deep, peaty, smokey flavor... ...real sippin' whiskey.
Would that be the Lagavulin (16 yr) or the Lagavulin (12 yr -Special Release)?...

I definitely prefer the Lagavulin 16...
might I also suggest the Laphroag (15 yr) - it comes from the Islay Region (as does the Lagavulin).

:thumbs2: :thumbs2:
That would be the 16 year old. I've never even tasted the 12 year old. Does the Laphroag have the same pronounced smokiness as the Lagavulin?
The Laphroag definitely has a pronounced peat aroma, very strong alcohol hit with a lingering smokey burn. A true pedigree. Peaty, smoky, sweet... and warm. My bottle of 15 yr.old doesn't have the medicinal taste that some tasters complain of. It is smoky. The 15 is smoother, sweeter, and a little less peppery then the 10 yr. old. Definitely worth a try.

Both Lagavulin and Laphroag have my vote! The peppery, beyond smoky taste is the closest thing to enjoying eating a campfire you'll ever do..... if that makes any sense?

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:thumbs2: :thumbs2:[/quote]
That would be the 16 year old. I've never even tasted the 12 year old. Does the Laphroag have the same pronounced smokiness as the Lagavulin?[/quote]

The Laphroag definitely has a pronounced peat aroma, very strong alcohol hit with a lingering smokey burn. A true pedigree. Peaty, smoky, sweet... and warm. My bottle of 15 yr.old doesn't have the medicinal taste that some tasters complain of. It is smoky. The 15 is smoother, sweeter, and a little less peppery then the 10 yr. old. Definitely worth a try.

Both Lagavulin and Laphroag have my vote! The peppery, beyond smoky taste is the closest thing to enjoying eating a campfire you'll ever do..... if that makes any sense?

:thumbs2:[/quote]

I think the medicinal taste comes more from the blends than from the single malts (no offense to the Famous Grouse poster earlier). Give me a good single malt anytime - Highland, Lowland, Isley or Speyside. :drool:
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Keith B, are you feeling ignored? :mrgreen:

I was wondering what our Obama supporters thought of the following:

It is well known that the administration has been in full attack dog mode against Fox News, calling them "not a news organization." It's even being reported on other networks, so there is no question as to the facts of the case. So given that, and given that NOBODY in their right mind (no pun intended) would call Keith Olberman an objective reporter, what do you make of the following piece of White House hypocrisy?

Obama Meets With Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow
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October 21, 2009 - 19:45 ET
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A day after key White House officials declared the Fox News Channel wasn't a news organization, President Obama met with MSNBC personalities Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.

Talk about your delicious hypocrisy.

Fittingly, the news was broken by FNC's Bret Baier during Tuesday's "Special Report" (video embedded below the fold with transcript, relevant section at 1:45, h/t Hot Air via NBer Thomas Stewart):
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BRET BAIER, HOST: And finally, during this morning's off-camera White House briefing with reporters, ABC's Jake Tapper asked Press Secretary Robert Gibbs about the ongoing White House attacks on FOX News Channel.

After being asked about the charge that FOX isn't a real news organization, Gibbs answered, quote "We render opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness of that coverage."

Tapper: "That's a sweeping declaration that they're not a news organization. How are they different from say, ABC, MSNBC, Univision?"

Gibbs: "You and I should watch around 9:00 tonight or 5:00 this afternoon."

Tapper: "I'm not talking about the opinion programs or issues you have with certain reports. I'm talking about saying that thousands of individuals who work for a media organization do not work for a news organization. Why is that appropriate for the White House to say?"

Gibbs: "That is our opinion."

Well, the White House's strong opinions about our opinion shows - - Glenn Beck runs at 5:00 p.m. and Sean Hannity at 9:00 p.m. -- apparently do not extend to similar shows on other networks.

A White House official confirms to us that the audience for Monday's off the record briefing with President Obama included MSNBC personalities Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.
Hmmm. So the White House thinks Fox isn't a news organization because it has a perspective, and specifically points fingers at Beck and Hannity.

What does the Adminstration think Olbermann and Maddow have?

I guess it's not a problem for a new organization and its members to have a perspective so long as it's one the White House shares.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
This administration may be saying it is transparent, but it's just lip service. They aren't even really pretending at it. As a friend of mine on another forum said:
"When this story was first reported on Fox News yesterday, they said the meeting at the White House behind closed doors lasted TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

"What president would have time to meet with selected members of the news media secretly for TWO AND A HALF HOURS?

"But especially THIS president who has so many serious problems on his plate. I wonder when the last time was that he spent TWO AND A HALF HOURS in meetings on the economy, unemployment, the war in Afghanistan?"
Two and a half hours for Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow, but he couldn't give more than 30 minutes to the General running the WAR IN AFGHANISTAN!!!

He is a political hack playing at being president, but he has underwhelmed so far in actually behaving like a president.

Hey Keith, did I get the ball rolling again? "rlol"
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Control of the media is a first step to breaking down our society. BHO, George Soros and Bloomberg are just the visible point-men in the continuing march to reintroduce the Internationale to the world.
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Purplehood wrote:Control of the media is a first step to breaking down our society. BHO, George Soros and Bloomberg are just the visible point-men in the continuing march to reintroduce the Internationale to the world.
"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. ... Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves." p.126

Always remember the first rule of power tactics (pps.127-134):

1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."

2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication.

3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

7."A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time....

8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign."

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside... every positive has its negative."

12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...

"...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...'

"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." (pps.127-134)

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Really enjoying reading this thread. Amazing how civil we all can be after the meltdowns I've seen in political discussions on other forums which I no longer read. A few of the posts so far have been very enlightening, with some good arguments for certain viewpoints that I hadn't even considered before. I've certainly learned a bit, which makes such discussions all the more worthwhile, in addition to being entertaining.

Personally I'm a fervently independent political thinker. Not a member of either "major" party. Not a Libertarian, either. Truly independent. Don't even join groups/organizations that supposedly strongly represent my beliefs/interests. Don't contribute any money to politics in any way. But I do vote. EVERY TIME. Even the "minor" elections like this Texas Constitutional referendum coming up.

As for this Obama vs. Fox News tit-for-tat, my personal take:

Fox News is absolutely unequivocally biased toward the conservative right. MSNBC is absolutely unequivocally biased toward the liberal left. It's as obvious to me as the sky is blue.

So what? Don't like one, then watch the other. Don't like either, then watch something else.

Obama Administration criticizing Fox News while giving a two-hour audience to Olbermann and Maddow? Same thing as Bush Administration criticizing the New York Times and giving exclusive interviews to Fox News.

Again, so what? Obama is a Democrat. Bush is a Republican.

Isn't this just obvious? All of this us vs. them is just the biggest "red herring" around. Keep your eye on the ball, and not on the clowns on both sides of the field.

I actually try to watch shows on all the major news channels just so I'm not "indoctrinated" into only one narrow view of the world. I watch Olbermann, Maddow, Hannity, and O'Reilly. Can't really stomach any of them for more than 20 minutes at a sitting. Only news program I can regularly watch anymore without wanting to vomit is the PBS News Hour. But it can get awfully dry at times, so that's when I pop over to Fox, MSNBC, or CNN to get some juicy deep fried bad-for-me opinionated drivel.

I have a degree in Journalism and worked in newspapers for more than 10 years. So I have some strong opinions about the ever-declining levels of "quality" news coverage in this country. The idiocy of all three major cable news channels mindlessly following that stupid aluminum Jiffy Pop balloon non-stop for hours the other day is just the latest example. The old axioms of television news "If it bleeds, it leads" and "live video trumps hard news. Every time." are more true today than ever before. Throw in "sex sells and political scandal sells out" to the equation, and that's the best you can hope for from most any news source these days. "Quality" news organizations are few and far between these days. Even NPR has lost a lot of its true news talent in favor of mindless feel-good urban liberal "talk".
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Wow! Good post austinrealtor! You said it a lot better than I ever could. I share most if not all of those sentiments. :clapping: :tiphat:
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austinrealtor wrote:As for this Obama vs. Fox News tit-for-tat, my personal take:

Fox News is absolutely unequivocally biased toward the conservative right. MSNBC is absolutely unequivocally biased toward the liberal left. It's as obvious to me as the sky is blue.

So what? Don't like one, then watch the other. Don't like either, then watch something else.

Obama Administration criticizing Fox News while giving a two-hour audience to Olbermann and Maddow? Same thing as Bush Administration criticizing the New York Times and giving exclusive interviews to Fox News.

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I have a degree in Journalism and worked in newspapers for more than 10 years. So I have some strong opinions about the ever-declining levels of "quality" news coverage in this country. The idiocy of all three major cable news channels mindlessly following that stupid aluminum Jiffy Pop balloon non-stop for hours the other day is just the latest example. The old axioms of television news "If it bleeds, it leads" and "live video trumps hard news. Every time." are more true today than ever before. Throw in "sex sells and political scandal sells out" to the equation, and that's the best you can hope for from most any news source these days. "Quality" news organizations are few and far between these days. Even NPR has lost a lot of its true news talent in favor of mindless feel-good urban liberal "talk".
AustinRealtor, It's not that I think of FoxNews as the only fount of truth, and you're absolutely correct that ALL of the cable news outlets' fixations on the dumbest stories is killing off the newsrooms. It's just that I don't share your perception that this administration isn't any different than any other with regard to adversarial relationships with the press. All administrations learn to be leery of the press, but also most administrations try to maintain the lines of communication, and more importantly, they don't go out of their way to alienate the press. The other networks are beginning to wake up and smell the coffee: if it can happen to Fox News, then it can happen to them too; and they don't like it one bit. Except for Keith Olberman, but he's special and eats his own boogers. He's ecstatic, but that's because he's too dumb to recognize the ideas of precedent and the turning of the worm. Today it's Glen Beck. Tomorrow it's Olberman. The last administration that alienated the press this way was Nixon's, and we all know how well that worked out for him.

Yes, the Bush administration tended to react favorably Fox News for their favorable coverage, but I also recall President Bush giving exclusive interviews to Tim Russert on a channel that was not sympathetic to Bush (MSNBC), because Russert was a consummately professional JOURNALIST, even though he worked for MSNBC, and even though, statistically, he probably held democrat sympathies. The same cannot be said for Russert's replacement Dick Gregory, who wears his sympathies on his sleeve.

And, Bush did not cut off the NYT from access — even after the NYT leaked information with national security implications in its front pages which made life significantly harder for the administration. Now, one can argue about the legality/propriety of the wiretaps in question, but "Top Secret" means "Top Secret," and that has powerful legal implications that are rarely ignored, apparently unless you are the NYT. People who violate that had usually better be prepared to get dragged into court to prove that their violation served the national interest rather than harming it — the alternative being locked up in a cell with a 6'10" repeat felon named Killah and having a woman tattooed on one's back. Bush did no such thing to the NYT, even though some would argue that he had ample cause to do so. And neither did he cut them off from further access to the administration. And neither did he wage a war against them in the media. Why? because even though he might have bitterly disagreed with them, he respected the separation of a free press from the office of the executive.

Obama shows no such respect for the 5th estate, and it is obviously apparent. Heck, even Helen Thomas — no friend of Fox News — is telling the administration that this is a losing proposition for them. But Obama isn't listening, and that is really creepy.

BTW, I spent 9 years working for a newspaper company in Los Angeles.

Hugh Hewitt had an intriguing suggestion a couple of years ago. He pointed out that financial reporters are required by the SEC to reveal whether or not they are vested in any company about which they are reporting. Hewitt suggested that maybe political correspondents ought to be required by law to reveal their party affiliation whenever reporting on American politics. Then their reader/listeners would be able to judge more easily whether the reportage was unbiased.

I like it! "rlol"
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