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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!

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You listen to it, it's not just the flag he is stomping on. About what I would expect from someone that was happy to go to prison to get his "head straight and get new material."
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Wes wrote:
It is clear that you, and the other brave men/women who defend our country and flag will only continue to be disrespected so I would just like to thank you and them alike. I dont have time for those who can't understand that sometimes a symbol means more and can't comprehend that its not just about the code. I have many friends who have fought for the same and their and your service is one of the most respectable things a person can do. People have the right to do and say what they want but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

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Thank you for your kind words.

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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!

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Previous generations had more of a concept of love of country. The vast majority of previous generations fit in the following categories:

1) Went off to war, saw and did terrible things and came back home.
2) Went off to war, saw and did terrible things and didn't come back home.
3) Saw their brother, father, cousin go off to war, see and do terrible things and come back home.
4) Saw their brother, father, cousin go off to war, see and do terrible things and not come back home.

When you deploy, whether it be to war or just routine, you see alot of things that makes you appreciate your country in ways that other citizens do not. You come home and are greeted by the sights of those things you have learned to appreciate and when you see that flag flying high and proud, you want to get on your knees and kiss the dirt.

The majority of Americans today have not had any contact with the kind of sacrifice that is required to maintain the freedoms that are embodied in the flag so many of them dismiss.

If that flag is 'no big deal', why was it that, when the guy going ahead of our armies carrying that flag fell, another soldier would sling his weapon and pick up that flag and continue carrying it before them? Why, if that flag is 'no big deal', does a soldier make himself a defenseless target to keep that flag where it could be seen by all? Why, if that flag is 'no big deal' was there traditionally one pistol cartridge with the matches in the truck of the flagpole to use on yourself when your duty to that flag was done?

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He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force.

A 2006 graduate of Palatine High School in Palatine, Ill., Boyd was the second Camp Pendleton marine from suburban Chicago to die in combat this week.

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After joining the Marine Corps in 2006, Boyd won a Purple Heart, Combat Action Ribbon, Humanitarian Service Medal and the National Defense Service Medal, according to The Daily Herald.

Boyd played for the football, wrestling and lacrosse teams at Palatine High School, The Daily Herald reported. His football coach, Tyler Donnelly, told the newspaper that Boyd was a role model.

"For years his name has been passed down in our program," Donnelly said. "We talk about him all the time. I really can't think of a better kid to give an example of what we're trying to get across: selflessness, sacrifice and hard work.

Explain to me how it is 'no big deal'...
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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!

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I'm going to go to the edge of the cliff to try to make this next point. Please don't push me over.

I'd rather see somebody burn the flag in angry protest than ignorantly or flippantly use it as a napkin to wipe BBQ sauce from their face.

*Preemptive clarification: I do NOT like seeing people burn our flag in protest, which is completely different than a respectful flag retirement using fire.

But, when you think of it, at least the angry protestor agrees that the flag holds significant meaning and value. They see what the flag represents and choose it to communicate their message for that very reason.

This, I would argue, actually shows some respect to the flag as a symbol - more so than the guy who treats it as nothing more than a random assortment of dyed thread.
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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!

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ss1088 wrote:
psijac wrote: But claiming ignorance to why someone would be offended is not fine.
I don't understand why this is not acceptable. Can you elaborate. I actually had a hard time following your whole post, but this is what stuck out to me the most.

Because we now live in a Politically correct world, where it doesn't matter why someone is offended. Just that they are, and the common reaction is to capitulate.

I have heard so down right ridiculous attempts at being offended. Oriental is offensive because it implies that Europe is the center of the world.

Feminists claim "moist" is a dirty word and should be banned from the dictionary.

Either its all sacred or nothing is sacred.

If you believe that the 1st is absolute and our flag should be used to mop the bathroom floors that contain. A mural of the profit Muhammed. That is one thing. But if you refuse to use the phrase Islamic terrorist or niggardly/niggling then you are demanding one set of rules for some people and one set of rules for another. Its worse than unfair it spits in the face of equality
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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!

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Speaking of which, when is the next Everybody Draw Mohammed Day?
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Re: HGTV: Use an American flag as a tablecloth!

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I was reading about the flag a bit just because of the 4th coming up and didn't know that Texas considers this a Class A misdemeanor.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/9/42/42.11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder if its ever actually been used?
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Wes wrote:I was reading about the flag a bit just because of the 4th coming up and didn't know that Texas considers this a Class A misdemeanor.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/9/42/42.11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder if its ever actually been used?
Yes: http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/h ... 97_ZS.html the infamous Texas vs. Johnson decision.
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