Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

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Excaliber wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:10 am
mrvmax wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:04 pm
suthdj wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:54 am What's funny is the some of same people that carry a gun "incase" something happens that poopoo preparing for a virus that has a greater risk of killing them then getting in a gun fight. Go figure.
What is funny is that people allow the media hype to motivate them. I’m not telling anybody to not prepare, I’m telling people they are allowing hysteria to drive their actions. The facts is that your chances of getting this are low, but unless you have a weakened immune system you’ll most likely survive it if you do get it - just like when people get the flu. If you want to prepare so that you don’t get this then stay away from people that have it and wash your hands. It’s crazy that this has been blown out of proportion enough to drive the stock market down and to send the price of N95 masks (which probably won’t prevent most people from getting it anyway) skyrocketing. What’s really making this worse is overreacting to it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tment.html
While numbers from governments that lie all the time and hide bad news are all over the place, it's noteworthy that China shut down a huge portion of their economically critical industrial base for over a month and has been incinerating far more bodies than the deaths they've been reporting. It's also noteworthy that medical personnel are wearing high level biohazard suits while treating patients. They don't do that for our seasonal flu.

I agree that panic is both unwarranted and unhelpful. However, preparedness to remain isolated from the public for up to 90 days in the event the virus hits hard in your area would be a really good idea - sorta like carrying a gun in case you might need it.
I agree with your statements, I’m sure the numbers are not correct but I weigh the odds. Have I ever been a victim of crime? A family member was in my presence and was so I say yes. Have my family members? Yes, multiple times. Have I ever had the flu? Nope. Yet 40-60k people die in the US every year from the flu yet I never get a flu shot.

I agree to have supplies to get by for 2 or more months but I have that already in hurricane supplies as anyone close to the gulf should. I also have a remote location I can go to away from the population if needed (with nearly unlimited water supply). I’ve thought things out and can survive if things ever go bad - I just don’t think Covid 19 will cause that. But, I’ve also been wrong a few times over the years too so we will see.
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suthdj wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:47 pm
strogg wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:42 pm
Liberty wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:14 pm Can the government enforce legal restrictions on a citizen's movements? Demanding quarantine, without trial without a court order, Sounds an awful lot like red flag orders and unconstitutional.
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlaw ... ation.html
Papa tiger called it
"The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution"
But none of this addresses being forcibly held against one's will without a court order and trial by jury. We have a 4th and 4th amendment.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavi ... 16610.html

Corona virus comes to US lawsuits will not be far behind.

Talks about quarantine and legality of such.

“Supreme Court doctrine directs that essentially all our individual liberties can be suspended if the government has a compelling interest to do so and if its measures are narrowly tailored to achieving that end.”

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"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" - FDR, 1933
"The only thing we have to offer, is fear" - DNC, 2020
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https://news.yahoo.com/net-group-says-w ... 59090.html

77 dead in Iran, many in top leadership.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei wearing gloves.
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AP Confirms: Democrats Are Lying to the Public About Coronavirus Readiness
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From James Robb MD specialist in Corona Viruses:

"1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.


Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available."
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This is a good example of why quarantine is a necessary imposition at times.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/if-i-do-get ... -to-tweet/
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philip964 wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:00 pm From James Robb MD specialist in Corona Viruses:

"1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.


Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available."
Plan B
Shoot skunk, make it into a necklace... no one will come near me, virus flu, cold, halitosis, sniffles or not.
Yeah, I got a box of the purple gloves
I stocked up with 100s of hand sanitizers already... (Actually donated them to my church, one at each end of each pew)
and already got a good quality 3M respirator & hundreds of rep0laceable filters (had to, smelled like skunk)

Seriously, good tips above .. I voted with my knuckle, then went to my car for sanitizer
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