Queens man arrested for huge stockpile of weapons including 17 guns, 225 pounds of gun powder and thousands rounds

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Re: Queens man arrested for huge stockpile of weapons including 17 guns, 225 pounds of gun powder and thousands rounds

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was discovered when officers conducted an administrative pistol licensee review
And that folks, is why if I ever recover from the mishap of losing all of my guns in a tragic boating accident, I will never register the new ones. :rules:
My guns won't be illegal, they'll be undocumented. :thumbs2:
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Re: Queens man arrested for huge stockpile of weapons including 17 guns, 225 pounds of gun powder and thousands rounds

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E.Marquez wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:My understanding is you are limited to 200 rounds of ammunition, 20 lbs of smokeless powder and 5 lbs black powder. For an individual to exceed these levels requires FD and Bdlg. permits and an approved magazine.
If you exceed these limits, the prevailing authority can fine you, FD $1200.00, Bdlg. $1600.00. The reckless endangerment charge would be at the discretion of the PD.
By chance do have a law or regulation cite for that?

Id be willing to bet most every user in this forum is in violation of the 200 round rule at home. Heck what i carry on me and in my chosen daily vehicle exceeds that number.
The load out for my "tennis racket" is 210 rds. AR pistol truck gun with 7-30 rd mags in a tennis racquet case. But it sleeps inside the house at night.
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Re: Queens man arrested for huge stockpile of weapons including 17 guns, 225 pounds of gun powder and thousands rounds

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I asked my brother in law the firefighter. Looks like 20 pounds without specific precautions.

5606.5.1 Display.
Display of small arms ammunition components in Group M occupancies shall comply with Sections 5606.5.1.1 through 5606.5.1.3.
5606.5.1.1 Smokeless propellant.
Not more than 20 pounds (9 kg) of smokeless propellants, in containers of 1 pound (0.454 kg) or less capacity each, shall be displayed in Group M occupancies.
5606.5.1.2 Black powder.
No more than 1 pound (0.454 kg) of black powder shall be displayed in Group M occupancies.
5606.5.1.3 Small arms primers.
No more than 10,000 small arms primers shall be displayed in Group M occupancies.
5606.5.2 Storage.
Storage of small arms ammunition components shall comply with Sections 5606.5.2.1 through 5606.5.2.3.
5606.5.2.1 Smokeless propellant.
Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants shall be stored as follows:
1. Quantities exceeding 20 pounds (9 kg), but not exceeding 100 pounds (45 kg) shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1 inch (25 mm) nominal thickness.
2. Quantities exceeding 100 pounds (45 kg), but not exceeding 800 pounds (363 kg), shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having walls at least 1 inch (25 mm) nominal thickness. Not more than 400 pounds (182 kg) shall be stored in any one cabinet, and cabinets shall be separated by a distance of at least 25 feet (7620 mm) or by a fire partition having a fire-resistance rating of at least 1 hour.
3. Storage of quantities exceeding 800 pounds (363 kg), but not exceeding 5,000 pounds (2270 kg) in a building shall comply with all of the following:
3.1. The warehouse or storage room is unaccessible to unauthorized personnel.
3.2. Smokeless propellant shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having wood walls at least 1 inch (25 mm) nominal thickness and having shelves with no more than 3 feet (914 mm) of separation between shelves.
3.3. No more than 400 pounds (182 kg) is stored in any one cabinet.
3.4. Cabinets shall be located against walls of the storage room or warehouse with at least 40 feet (12 192 mm) between cabinets.
3.5. The minimum required separation between cabinets shall be 20 feet (6096 mm) provided that barricades twice the height of the cabinets are attached to the wall, midway between each cabinet. The barricades must extend a minimum of 10 feet (3048 mm) outward, be firmly attached to the wall and be constructed of steel not less than 1/4 inch thick (6.4 mm), 2-inch (51 mm) nominal thickness wood, brick or concrete block.
3.6. Smokeless propellant shall be separated from materials classified as combustible liquids, flammable liquids, flammable solids or oxidizing materials by a distance of 25 feet (7620 mm) or by a fire partition having a fire-resistance rating of 1 hour.
3.7. The building shall be equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system installed in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1.
4. Smokeless propellants not stored according to Item 1, 2, or 3 above shall be stored in a Type 2 or 4 magazine in accordance with Section 5604 and NFPA 495.
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SIRIT wrote:Dang I have trouble finding more than a pound or two of power pistol or bullseye at a time. Who's this guys source that's what i want to know. Hook me up! :drool:
I routinely see 8# jugs of Bullseye at my LGS. Sometimes Win 231 too.
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Sounds like he owned the "Texas Starter Kit" collection.

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Re: Queens man arrested for huge stockpile of weapons including 17 guns, 225 pounds of gun powder and thousands rounds

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Dadtodabone wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:My understanding is you are limited to 200 rounds of ammunition, 20 lbs of smokeless powder and 5 lbs black powder. For an individual to exceed these levels requires FD and Bdlg. permits and an approved magazine.
If you exceed these limits, the prevailing authority can fine you, FD $1200.00, Bdlg. $1600.00. The reckless endangerment charge would be at the discretion of the PD.
By chance do have a law or regulation cite for that?

Id be willing to bet most every user in this forum is in violation of the 200 round rule at home. Heck what i carry on me and in my chosen daily vehicle exceeds that number.
Title 38 RCNY Rev. 2010. I want to say it was in chapter 2, but it could be chapter 1.
I learned about this, after FDNY "raided" a construction site where a sub was using power fasteners (.22 blanks) and he was caught with 312. Same rules as ammo, $1200.00 fine and confiscation of materials.
I guess it's because I am so backwoods/hillbilly I can not comprehend this. Socialism at it's finest.
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