rotor wrote:The CDC says 100 people die of a drug overdose every day and 3/4 of these are prescription drug overdoses, not a junky with a needle in his arm. We care more about this case because we identify with him. We have seen him on the silver screen. Nobody cares about the other 99 that died yesterday. He made his choices and paid the penalty for bad choices. Let him rest in peace. We will never "win" a war on drugs. There will always be people who will abuse them. Laws don't change human nature.
Alcoholism deaths are also more than double the number of drug overdose deaths. Of course, no one is talking about banning alcohol (nor should we).
Liberty also means people can and do make stupid choices.
rotor wrote:The CDC says 100 people die of a drug overdose every day and 3/4 of these are prescription drug overdoses, not a junky with a needle in his arm. We care more about this case because we identify with him. We have seen him on the silver screen. Nobody cares about the other 99 that died yesterday. He made his choices and paid the penalty for bad choices. Let him rest in peace. We will never "win" a war on drugs. There will always be people who will abuse them. Laws don't change human nature.
Alcoholism deaths are also more than double the number of drug overdose deaths. Of course, no one is talking about banning alcohol (nor should we).
Liberty also means people can and do make stupid choices.
rotor wrote:The CDC says 100 people die of a drug overdose every day and 3/4 of these are prescription drug overdoses, not a junky with a needle in his arm. We care more about this case because we identify with him. We have seen him on the silver screen. Nobody cares about the other 99 that died yesterday. He made his choices and paid the penalty for bad choices. Let him rest in peace. We will never "win" a war on drugs. There will always be people who will abuse them. Laws don't change human nature.
This ^^, which is why I won't dance on his grave.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
I think that Philip Hoffman's death was sad, unnecessary and avoidable. Most drug overdoses are not publicized unless the deceased is a public figure. My biggest issue is when the press or fans try to promote the notion just because the person was famous or talented that the death was glamorous and they are deserving of some kind of cult status or hero worship. On the other hand, calling someone a junkie does the opposite by trying to portray them as less than human.
WildBill wrote:I think that Philip Hoffman's death was sad, unnecessary and avoidable. Most drug overdoses are not publicized unless the deceased is a public figure. My biggest issue is when the press or fans try to promote the notion just because the person was famous or talented that the death was glamorous and they are deserving of some kind of cult status or hero worship. On the other hand, calling someone a junkie does the opposite by trying to portray them as less than human.
I use the term junkie to mean drug addict. You think "drug addict" makes him more human- fine. I think people become addicts because we are human, we have vices, failings, etc. We are not perfect.
I have always thought that the worst way to die would be "on the toilet". Yeah I know in this case he was just "in the toilet" but I do wonder if he could have foreseen his demise if that might have been enough to inspire him to get treatment.
Let us hope that his untimely death will cause one or more other people to think twice about their drug habit.
TomsTXCHL wrote:I have always thought that the worst way to die would be "on the toilet". Yeah I know in this case he was just "in the toilet" but I do wonder if he could have foreseen his demise if that might have been enough to inspire him to get treatment.
Let us hope that his untimely death will cause one or more other people to think twice about their drug habit.
I have been reading more about Philip Hoffman and his addictions to drugs and alcohol since in his 20s.
A sober and rational person would think twice about their drug habits and the potential bad outcomes.
However drug addicts of this severity are rarely thinking rationally.
Their addiction and desire to get high over-shadows considerations and consequences that effect their family members and friends.
Think Elvis Presley or Lenny Bruce.
TomsTXCHL wrote:I had to look-up his resume over at IMDB, and he was remarkably hard-working for an addict.
I was hoping his last movie was not "The Master" (**worse-than-terrible**) and thankfully it was not.
Because it really was a bad movie or you just don't like Scientology?
....or because it was a bad movie about scientology?
I've actually be curious about that movie and had not seen it yet. But I've seen a number of his other roles, going all the way back to Patch Adams, and I always thought he was a very good actor. He was brilliant in Capote, for which he won an Oscar for best performance by a male actor.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
TomsTXCHL wrote:I had to look-up his resume over at IMDB, and he was remarkably hard-working for an addict.
I was hoping his last movie was not "The Master" (**worse-than-terrible**) and thankfully it was not.
Because it really was a bad movie or you just don't like Scientology?
....or because it was a bad movie about scientology?
I've actually be curious about that movie and had not seen it yet. But I've seen a number of his other roles, going all the way back to Patch Adams, and I always thought he was a very good actor. He was brilliant in Capote, for which he won an Oscar for best performance by a male actor.
Most of his notable roles have been playing eccentric characters, such as Truman Capote. My first recollection of Philip Seymour Hoffman was in his role in "Patch Adams" as the uptight medical student roommate of Robin Williams. He was also excellent as the CIA case officer in "Charlie Wilson's War". He will not be remembered as an actor for playing main steam roles , but he was quite a talent.
70 bags of heroin found with Seymour yet people want to make him out to be some kind of hero. SMH
“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, an American Soldier doesn't have that problem". — President Ronald Reagan, 1985
TomsTXCHL wrote:I had to look-up his resume over at IMDB, and he was remarkably hard-working for an addict.
I was hoping his last movie was not "The Master" (**worse-than-terrible**) and thankfully it was not.
Because it really was a bad movie or you just don't like Scientology?
I don't know Scientology from Astrology, but The Master sucked big-time; completely fails as Entertainment.
On the other hand, the Best Movie You Never Saw (Or Ever Heard Of Before) from the same guy Paul Thomas Anderson is "Magnolia". PSH was in that too and if you ever have 3 hours to kill it is entertaining from start-to-finish.