17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

[HerbM]

Looks like some in the major media are starting to catch on that this case has actual facts.

Wikipedia has a relatively unbiased summary of the known facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trayvon_Martin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fox has finally started reporting it closer to 'down the middle'.

Zimmerman apparently told police he was NOT following Martin (either he hadn't done that or had ceased and was walking back to his truck) when he was attacked from behind, knocked to the ground, and was being beaten.

A eye witness has apparently confirmed this account.

Remember, even this may not be 'the truth' but it is the best reading of what Zimmerman and the police have so far actually said.

Anyone remember the "Duke Lacrosse 'Rape' Case"? Remember that for quite some time, it was OBVIOUS that the Duke players were guilty of heinous crimes.

Also, this week, a store owner shot and killed a "black 16 year old" in Tampa while he was trying to hold up her convenience store.

Heard anything about that one in the major media?

[74novaman]

Also, this week, a store owner shot and killed a "black 16 year old" in Tampa while he was trying to hold up her convenience store.

Heard anything about that one in the major media?

Difference there is the kid came into her store with a gun drawn, so it was a clear cut, open and shut type situation.

Because Martin was unarmed, the Zimmerman case is slightly more contrived.

Media can't scream about how the kid about to hold up the store "wasn't doing anything" like they can about Martin (despite some evidence to the contrary coming to light recently that he may have attacked Zimmerman and thrown the first punch)

[chasfm11]

This quote is dangerously close to a veiled threat against Zimmerman from a sitting member of the United States Congress.

Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Florida, called Trayvon Martin a "victim of a botched police investigation full of incompetence or intelligent mismanagement." She added, "Trayvon was hunted, chased, tackled and shot. Ill-conceived laws and lax gun laws all contribute to this tragedy. Mr. Zimmerman should be arrested immediately for his own safety."

And since no one really knows what happened at this point, she is essentially a liar exploiting a tragedy to advance a political agenda that ultimately seeks to empower criminals by making their victims defenseless. Innocent African Americans will actually be the most defenseless --and that's not just ill-conceived, that's evil. She's also calling for the commission of an illegal and unconstitutional act --IOW, a crime. A crime which violates her oath of office --and doesn't that make her a Traitor? The government does not have any legal basis for arresting and imprisoning people to ensure their "safety." The left in this country is running out of ways to be more repugnant.

I with all of your statements save the last sentence. There is no shortage of ways for them to be even more repugnant. As soon as I think they have exhausted all of the possibilities, something like this comes up and they prove me wrong - again. For example, I never would have expected the fiasco in Wisconsin where the State Capitol was taken over and defaced with impunity. I promise you that if that had been a Tea Party group, they would all be rotting in jail.

I was in the NY area when Al Sharpton helped to manufacture the Tawany Brawly incident I thought then that such a concocted, despicable act could not be topped. Rev Sharpton has proved me wrong several times since then.

[smoothoperator]

I have a question for the legal minds on this forum. The Black Panthers have reportedly put a bounty on Mr. Zimmerman. This is obviously horribly wrong, but isn't there something illegal about it as well?

It's a Federal hate crime but, as Holder showed when the Black Panthers intimidated voters, this administration doesn't care about Justice, only staying in power. At any cost. Remember this is the same USAG who approved selling machineguns to drug cartels.

[JeepGuy79]

trayvon's family has started court procedures to copyright his sayings??? No time for grief when they have shirts to sell I guess.

[baldeagle]

Call 1 is Zimmerman's call to the police department number. At about the 2:00 mark there is crucial evidence. Zimmerman says "….he's running…." He describes which way Trayvon is going as (it sounds like) he gets out of his SUV to follow him. At 2:23 the police dispatcher asks, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman responds, "Yeah". The dispatcher then says, "OK, we don't need you to do that." Zimmerman then responds, "OK." At 2:38 Zimmerman says, "He ran." At about the 2:44 mark it sounds like Zimmerman has stopped running. The two carry on a conversation. At the 3:39 mark Zimmerman says, "….I don't know where this kid is."

Based on that, I see two possibilities. Either Zimmerman is telling the truth and Trayvon sucker punched him and then started beating him, or Zimmerman lied and he started the fight. If the former, he'll likely be no-billed. If the latter, he could be charged with manslaughter. I saw this on Twitter today - " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Trayvon Martin: "You gotta problem?" -- George Zimmerman: "No." -- Martin: "Well, you do now..." -- Eyewitness description to police.

But when I asked for a link, he said he heard it on the radio. If this witness actually exists, that changes things dramatically. It fills in a 60 second gap in the evidence that determines who was at fault for the assault.

[smoothoperator]

The police interviewed George Zimmerman that same night and so far the evidence is consistent with his story. I suppose it's possible he can make up a better story than half the writers in Hollywood while sitting in the back seat of a police car, and can act like George Clooney, but it's starting look more and more like he was telling the truth.

[FishInTx]

Trying to save my opinions until all the facts are in...but....It's crazy to see the story change/evolve. Seemed like an open and shut case when the story first broke. Racist white guy with a rap sheet shoots young cute innocent black kid who just went to the store to buy skittles. Only pictures are a mug shot of shooter and an old pic. of a very young "victim". Only the first name of the "victim" is used and only the last name of the shooter is used. (Innocent black kid, racist "white guy". Somehow, white guy turns into white/hispanic and then back to white guy? Never heard of white/hispanic before. I know there's more but not gonna list it all/grass stains, injuries, etc.. Red flags keep popping up as time goes by. The story, events, keep unfolding and changing our view. I hope the media and "protesters" keep up with the facts and act accordingly. Hope the police have all the facts, don't "bungle" the case, and present it clearly and decisively to the public.

[Originalist]

FWIW.... White is a race and Hispanic is an ethnicity.... hence the boxes being white, hispanic and white, non-hispanic on most applications....

[baldeagle]

Well, one thing we've already learned from this story is that, if you're ever in a shooting incident, you can't rely on the media to tell the truth.

[Originalist]

Well, one thing we've already learned from this story is that, if you're ever in a shooting incident, you can't rely on the media to tell the truth.

[philip964]

As this incident continues to spiral out of control, a 70 year old couple is being harassed by people trying to find George Zimmerman.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ ... eet-567891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spike Lee apparently reposted a Tweet supposedly showing where George Zimmerman lived. Unfortunately for this couple the original post was incorrect.

Seems to me this is a cause of action. I hope they get a lot of money from these people who veil threats.

[The Annoyed Man]

As this incident continues to spiral out of control, a 70 year old couple is being harassed by people trying to find George Zimmerman.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ ... eet-567891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spike Lee apparently reposted a Tweet supposedly showing where George Zimmerman lived. Unfortunately for this couple the original post was incorrect.

Seems to me this is a cause of action. I hope they get a lot of money from these people who veil threats.

OK, that is just about ENOUGH! It's lawsuit time, and a court should empty Spike Lee's bank account and give all his money to this couple.

Last night in the local news I saw a story about an elderly woman in her 70s whose phone number was disseminated by Justin Bieber as a prank in which he tweeted to his fans to call him—KNOWING that this was a false number, and never stopping to think that his millions of fans would make life intolerable for some private citizen. Her phone has become unusable, and her voicemail box is overrun with giggly teenybopper voices begging Bieber to call them back. When she complained to the phone company, the only suggestion they could offer her was that she could change her number.......the number she has had since the 1960s. She said no way because that would mean that she would have to notify anybody who has been in contact with her for over 40 years to notify them of the change, and the onus should not be on her, the innocent victim of an expensive prank to make it right........and she is looking at suing Bieber. I say good for her.

You never even here an "Oops! I'm sorry" out of the mental lightweights who pull this kind of crap. They are far too self-centered to understand, let alone care about the consequences of their privileged actions on regular people. The twits who think that the anonymity of Twitter will protect them from criminal behavior need to be taught an expensive and painful lesson. The baboon who gave out the incorrect Zimmerman address should have to cool his heels in a jail cell for a while for making terroristic threats against an innocent party. These people know no decency, and it is time to take out the trash.

[bayouhazard]

Has the head of CBS or The New York Times or even FOX apologied yet to the Sanford PD and its Chief for implying they're incompetent and racist?

Just sayim.

[The Annoyed Man]

As this incident continues to spiral out of control, a 70 year old couple is being harassed by people trying to find George Zimmerman.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ ... eet-567891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spike Lee apparently reposted a Tweet supposedly showing where George Zimmerman lived. Unfortunately for this couple the original post was incorrect.

Seems to me this is a cause of action. I hope they get a lot of money from these people who veil threats.

http://nation.foxnews.com/spike-lee/201 ... rtin-tweet

Spike Lee refusing to apologize for retweeting a terroristic threat. His production company's answer? "No comment." It's time to take out the trash.