Rep. Ron Paul opposed to raid on Bin Laden's compound

[Charles L. Cotton]

I'm curious, why do you two folks like Ron Paul? What has he accomplished in all the years he's been in Washington?

Do you agree with his position on the Bin Laden raid?

Chas.

[flb_78]

I like him because he votes the way he says he will vote. He votes against everything that's not Constitutional. He doesn't just vote the party line.

I don't agree that we should just smash across borders. I wouldn't want the Mexican Military to cross our borders without our permission.

[Bullwhip]

He doesn't ever do anything.

Too bad we can't say the same about the rest of congress.

He's funny, odd. Not a good speaker. Sure would be nice if he wasn't the only one in DC who believed in his oath to the Constitution.

[Charles L. Cotton]

He doesn't ever do anything.

Too bad we can't say the same about the rest of congress.

He's funny, odd. Not a good speaker. Sure would be nice if he wasn't the only one in DC who believed in his oath to the Constitution.

His version of the Constitution; for example, his belief that firearms manufacturers should have to pay federal excise taxes to the government every two weeks instead of quarterly like every other manufacturer in the country.

Chas.

[sjfcontrol]

He doesn't ever do anything.

Too bad we can't say the same about the rest of congress.

He's funny, odd. Not a good speaker. Sure would be nice if he wasn't the only one in DC who believed in his oath to the Constitution.

His version of the Constitution; for example, his belief that firearms manufacturers should have to pay federal excise taxes to the government every two weeks instead of quarterly like every other manufacturer in the country.

Chas.

Charles, What is the logic or argument used to support that opinion? (That excise taxes should be paid semi-monthly.) I know it recently changed, but I never knew why it was different for firearms manufacturers anyway. Do they think firearms manufacturers are less reputable or responsible than other mfgrs?

[yerasimos]

He doesn't ever do anything.

Too bad we can't say the same about the rest of congress.

He's funny, odd. Not a good speaker. Sure would be nice if he wasn't the only one in DC who believed in his oath to the Constitution.

His version of the Constitution; for example, his belief that firearms manufacturers should have to pay federal excise taxes to the government every two weeks instead of quarterly like every other manufacturer in the country.

Chas.

Charles, What is the logic or argument used to support that opinion? (That excise taxes should be paid semi-monthly.) I know it recently changed, but I never knew why it was different for firearms manufacturers anyway. Do they think firearms manufacturers are less reputable or responsible than other mfgrs?

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[The Annoyed Man]

I wouldn't want the Mexican Military to cross our borders without our permission.

They've already done so. LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU.

[speedsix]

When Paul talks about economic issues, he says some very good things. He gets onto other issues though and says some crazy thinks. He may be the one Republican candidate that if the nominee would force me to sit out the 2012 election.

Yeah - I think that's what Chas is getting at - all he does is say some agreeable rhetoric. He doesn't ever do anything.

I think someone wiser than I once said "show me your faith without works, and I'll show you my faith by what I do." That is how I judge elected officers, by what their track record shows, not what they say. I find it easier to identify propaganda vs facts.

...BINGO!!!

[speedsix]

...TAM, if you can do all that...why did I just finish mowing my front yard, couldn't you have done it from your keyboard??? That's NEAT!!!

...OH..Ron Paul...well, he's a bit off topic, too...

[flb_78]

Mr. Cotton, could you explain to me what this paragraph means.

SEC. 3. ASSESSMENT OF CERTAIN CRIMINAL RESTITUTION.
(a) In General- Subsection (a) of section 6201 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
‘(4) CERTAIN ORDERS OF CRIMINAL RESTITUTION-
‘(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall assess and collect the amount of restitution under an order pursuant to section 3556 of title 18, United States Code, for failure to pay any tax imposed under this title in the same manner as if such amount were such tax.
‘(B) TIME OF ASSESSMENT- An assessment of an amount of restitution under an order described in subparagraph (A) shall not be made before all appeals of such order are concluded and the right to make all such appeals has expired.
‘(C) RESTRICTION ON CHALLENGE OF ASSESSMENT- The amount of such restitution may not be challenged by the person against whom assessed on the basis of the existence or amount of the underlying tax liability in any proceeding authorized under this title (including in any suit or proceeding in court permitted under section 7422).’.
(b) Exception From Certain Restrictions on Assessment and Collection-
(1) NO PETITION TO TAX COURT, NO RESTRICTION ON FURTHER DEFICIENCY LETTERS, ETC- Subsection (b) of section 6213 of such Code is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
‘(5) CERTAIN ORDERS OF CRIMINAL RESTITUTION- If the taxpayer is notified that an assessment has been or will be made pursuant to section 6201(a)(4)--
‘(A) such notice shall not be considered as a notice of deficiency for the purposes of subsection (a) (prohibiting assessment and collection until notice of the deficiency has been mailed), section 6212(c)(1) (restricting further deficiency letters), or section 6512(a) (prohibiting credits or refunds after petition to the Tax Court), and
‘(B) subsection (a) shall not apply with respect to the amount of such assessment.’.
(2) TIME LIMITATIONS ON ASSESSMENT AND COLLECTION- Subsection (c) of section 6501 of such Code is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
‘(11) CERTAIN ORDERS OF CRIMINAL RESTITUTION- In the case of any amount described in section 6201(a)(4), such amount may be assessed, or a proceeding in court for the collection of such amount may be begun without assessment, at any time.’.
(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply to restitution ordered after the date of the enactment of this Act..

[Bullwhip]

He doesn't ever do anything.

Too bad we can't say the same about the rest of congress.

He's funny, odd. Not a good speaker. Sure would be nice if he wasn't the only one in DC who believed in his oath to the Constitution.

His version of the Constitution; for example, his belief that firearms manufacturers should have to pay federal excise taxes to the government every two weeks instead of quarterly like every other manufacturer in the country.

Chas.

Sorry I don't know what that's about. Hint?

[The Annoyed Man]

He doesn't ever do anything.

Too bad we can't say the same about the rest of congress.

He's funny, odd. Not a good speaker. Sure would be nice if he wasn't the only one in DC who believed in his oath to the Constitution.

His version of the Constitution; for example, his belief that firearms manufacturers should have to pay federal excise taxes to the government every two weeks instead of quarterly like every other manufacturer in the country.

Chas.

Sorry I don't know what that's about. Hint?

Ron Paul voted against the Federal Excise Tax Improvement Act of 2010 (H.R. 5552). Prior to its passage, every manufacturer of guns and ammo had to pay federal excise taxes to the government every two weeks, rather than quarterly as do every other manufacturer in the country. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37484" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ron Paul signed the amicus brief in Heller, the decision which affirms the 2nd as an individual right, but he would not sign the amicus brief in McDonald. That means that he does not support the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment under the 14th. That is what guarantees 2nd Amendment supremacy within the individual states. Paul is not a steadfast friend to gun owners or the RKBA: viewtopic.php?p=347077#p347077" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In other words, Ron Paul believes you have an individual right to keep and bear arms, but he wants the states to retain the authority to regulate your exercise of that right. Since McDonald was specific to Chicago's complete repression of gun rights, that means that Paul is OK with Chicago's crushing of the RKBA for its residents.

He's a pin-headed fool.

[buck000]

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IMHO, when Dr. Paul makes some statement that the media finds wildly whacky, there's generally a Constitutional basis for his position.

Ron Paul 2012.

[karder]

I wouldn't want the Mexican Military to cross our borders without our permission.

They've already done so. LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU.

When the Mexican Army crosses our border they are bringing things in, not taking things out!

[Charles L. Cotton]

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IMHO, when Dr. Paul makes some statement that the media finds wildly whacky, there's generally a Constitutional basis for his position.

Ron Paul 2012.

What's the constitutional basis for not supporting incorporation of the Second Amendment to the states? What's the constitutional basis for treating firearms manufacturers different from all other U.S. manufacturers in terms of payment of federal excise taxes?

It's not just the media that thinks his statements are wild and wacky.

Chas.