October is "Hog Out Month - Get the Hog Outta Texas!"

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Re: October is "Hog Out Month - Get the Hog Outta Texas!"

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gmckinl wrote:IMO, don't expect to see free hog hunting on private land in Texas no matter how bad it gets. That won't fly because of people leasing land to hunt deer.

If I'm paying money for a deer lease (season or annual) I expect that my group are the only ones to do any hunting on the property (day leases being an obvious exception). I don't want to come across someone I don't know wandering around. Just our group and the land owner/family. Obviously exceptions for workers herding cattle, surveying, etc., but no one else should be hunting. I expect most lessees would feel the same.

Just my opinion on how I see it shaking out.
Not saying that I disagree with you at all, unfortunately. Though there are about 9 months that are outside of deer season, plus there are plenty of places that aren't leased that still have pigs.

I just don't like my money going to someone who complains about too many hogs but won't allow anyone to assist in reducing the population. Instead, they would rather hold their hand out for some easy, taxpayer cash or charge a ridiculously large fee to allow others to shoot the "problem". :banghead: Heck, there are already six folks (seven counting myself) in this short thread who are ready and willing to help.

Read this thread (its long) and then we'll talk.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=449721" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can give you no less than a half dozen GOOD reasons why (most) land owners do not allow people they don't know onto their land to hunt hogs.

And its laughable....the thought that the "average Joe" with little to no hog hunting experience would even see a hog, let alone shoot one. Even if you did, taking out a "few" hogs does nothing to address the overall problem.

The most likely outcome of your proposal: Increased traffic/pressure will temporarily move the animals off the the property onto neighboring lands. That only causes a problem for my neighbor and again....does nothing to reduce numbers.

Additionally, every time you fail to kill a hog, you educate it.....and I can tell you...they are already plenty smart.

Read the thread...and if you can come back here and honestly say you know more about hogs and hog hunting than I do, then we'll talk.

But, the notion....that allowing the public to waltz in here and hunt... will in anyway "solve the problem" is just beyond naive.


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Re: October is "Hog Out Month - Get the Hog Outta Texas!"

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flintknapper wrote:Read this thread (its long) and then we'll talk.

I can give you no less than a half dozen GOOD reasons why (most) land owners do not allow people they don't know onto their land to hunt hogs.

And its laughable....the thought that the "average Joe" with little to no hog hunting experience would even see a hog, let alone shoot one. Even if you did, taking out a "few" hogs does nothing to address the overall problem.
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I have read your (it's long) thread and it contains many offers to "help" control the population of hogs. I do not claim to know more than you about hunting pigs. Maybe after reading your thread, I now know more than "average Joe".

I can also think of a half dozen "good" reasons why a land owner will not allow strangers to hunt their land. The fact is that a land owner doesn't need a reason other than he owns the land and you don't.

I don't think that any of the forum members who volunteered to kill a few pigs think that they will "solve" or even make a dent in the overall pig population. All they did was good-naturedly offer to kill a pig or two for fun and maybe to get some pork to eat. I also don't think that any forum member is naive enough to think that a Texas landowner is going to read the post on the forum and they are going to get an email inviting them to come over a shoot a few pigs.

A thread like this is like me complaining that I own too many guns. I don't have enough room in my gun safes, they take too long to clean, and I have so many 1911s that they are covering up the entire dining room table so there is no room for me to have my family over for Thanksgiving dinner.

Of course, some forum members, knowing I will probably not give my guns away, will offer to take the "excess" guns off of my hands - and I don't need any good reasons not to give them away.
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Re: October is "Hog Out Month - Get the Hog Outta Texas!"

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AndyC wrote:Sounds like we need to introduce mountain-lion and leopard into the area...
Good point AndyC. Then what would you do when they became overpopulated? Mountain lion and leopard have no natural predators. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

I wonder what caused the ecosytem in Texas to get so out of whack so that pigs are overpopulating the habitat?
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Flintknapper I haven't made it all the way through your thread yet, but so far it's better than any reality show ever. Great job. :tiphat:
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WildBill wrote:I wonder what caused the ecosytem in Texas to get so out of whack so that pigs are overpopulating the habitat?
It appears to be nothing more than their own talent for procreating.

Occasionally, Discovery shows a special correctly titled, "Pig Bomb".
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I wonder what caused the ecosytem in Texas to get so out of whack so that pigs are overpopulating the habitat?
HISTORY AND DISTRIBUTION OF FERAL HOGS IN TEXAS by RICHARD B. TAYLOR, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, P. O. Box 5207, Uvalde, Texas 78802
http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/feral/feral-6.htm
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10Shooter wrote:
I wonder what caused the ecosytem in Texas to get so out of whack so that pigs are overpopulating the habitat?
HISTORY AND DISTRIBUTION OF FERAL HOGS IN TEXAS by RICHARD B. TAYLOR, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, P. O. Box 5207, Uvalde, Texas 78802
http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/feral/feral-6.htm
A good historical view, but most of the information is outdated.
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Re: October is "Hog Out Month - Get the Hog Outta Texas!"

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I don't think any private farm land doesn't have deer leases. Most are year round,and the hunters prep the land all year. They kill pigs too.

Ask lease clubs if you can kill pigs on their lease. Some will welcome the help.
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I shot this one outside of San Augustine about two weeks ago. Weighed about 175 lbs. Shot with a Marlin 1894 chambered in .44 magnum from about 35 yards away. I hand load and used a 240 grain Hornady XTP with 24 grains of Hogdgon 110 under it. The piggy dropped immediately kicked three times and died.

The .44 mag just hammered him.
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You don't look like your avatar at all........

Nice little piggy! I'm trying to get some information from a friend of mine that knows someone wanting their land cleared of hogs as best possible. Could be a real good time as long as there aren't too many hunters. If it looks like a free-for-all, I just won't go. Too many people with guns on unfamiliar property......bad situation....
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lonewolf wrote:You don't look like your avatar at all........

Nice little piggy! I'm trying to get some information from a friend of mine that knows someone wanting their land cleared of hogs as best possible. Could be a real good time as long as there aren't too many hunters. If it looks like a free-for-all, I just won't go. Too many people with guns on unfamiliar property......bad situation....

Yup!

Hope the land owner doesn't have any livestock on the place either. (or gates that need to remain shut, etc, etc..)
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Hopefully I will take few out this weekend with the AR.
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