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By that reasoning, a company could discriminate against women because pregnancy and child birth is expensive. Not just the medical costs, but potential time off work.57Coastie wrote:I suspect that we are back into the old question of, "Do you want to stand on your principles, or do you want a job?" Like it or not, there are an awful lot of folks out there today who need a job, at the same time as the cost of health insurance has skyrocketed to the point where more employers feel obliged to look into the hidden costs to his business which may be caused by a new employee. Right or wrong, I do believe that as a practical matter we can expect this.
Um...they allready do that. Its just not official. Basically when the wife finishes law school she will have to go out of her way to mention that I am going to be a stay at home dad, so that she wont be discriminated against.Big Tuna wrote:By that reasoning, a company could discriminate against women because pregnancy and child birth is expensive. Not just the medical costs, but potential time off work.57Coastie wrote:I suspect that we are back into the old question of, "Do you want to stand on your principles, or do you want a job?" Like it or not, there are an awful lot of folks out there today who need a job, at the same time as the cost of health insurance has skyrocketed to the point where more employers feel obliged to look into the hidden costs to his business which may be caused by a new employee. Right or wrong, I do believe that as a practical matter we can expect this.
Thats funny. As part of my US citizenship application I had to undergo a background check and then biometric collection.marksiwel wrote:What you dont want the government to have your DNA and Fingerprints on file? Now can I see your papers citizen?
I have a friend who got kicked out (he later came back) because they were too lazy to file his Visa renewal. Good timesTheBrit wrote:Thats funny. As part of my US citizenship application I had to undergo a background check and then biometric collection.marksiwel wrote:What you dont want the government to have your DNA and Fingerprints on file? Now can I see your papers citizen?
Here is the kicker, I'm a now a US citizen, but apparently a second rate US citizen. The FBI holds a file on me, although I have never been convicted of a crime. My fingerprints, iris scan, and picture are in a government held database even though I am not a threat to the government and willingly pledged my allegiance to this great country. One would have imagined after I was accepted as a US citizen I would have the same rights as my fellow countrymen, my file deleted. Most of us here are of immigrant decent, I was just a few hundreds years later than most.
Is Freedom Free? No.
Don't get me wrong I love being a US citizen, and knowingly accepted I would be indexed and filed. I'm just saying that sometimes we have to do things we don't want to do in order to see the bigger picture. Maybe I'll live long enough to see a change in immigration law were a US citizen is just that. When "WE THE PEOPLE" applies to all of us. I suspect I won't. I've seen a government turn against its people, take their guns, their liberty, their freedom. Orwellian indeed!
God Bless America, and her Constitution that keeps us the worlds freest nation! Lets not lose sight of what we have here.
On a side note - If it was ever discovered a clerical error had been made on my 4 year long application process, say for example a clerk entered the wrong date on a form, I could be denaturalized at any time. Even if I lived here for 60 years or more. Kinda scary....
I might question your assumption, Brit, that native born citizens have their "file deleted" once one is generated by the FBI for some reason, legitimately or not, and one need not have committed a crime to have that file generated. I have had some personal experience in that respect.TheBrit wrote: One would have imagined after I was accepted as a US citizen I would have the same rights as my fellow countrymen, my file deleted.
Maybe they are collecting it so that if you turn out to be a superb worker, they can clone you.The Annoyed Man wrote:It may also be illegal. Collecting DNA without a warrant? For what possible purpose? I find it repulsive also.
If that is the case, I wish they would hurry up; I could use the help!!jimlongley wrote:Maybe they are collecting it so that if you turn out to be a superb worker, they can clone you.The Annoyed Man wrote:It may also be illegal. Collecting DNA without a warrant? For what possible purpose? I find it repulsive also.
