Navy UFO Patents

[philip964]

For something a little different:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... al-testing

[Paladin]

I saw that. Pretty wild. Dr. Pais work[ed] at Pax River... one of the places you would expect advanced aerospace technologies to be developed.

[WildBill]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

[philip964]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

I also thought that as well.

It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs. Or a lure to trap spies.

[Paladin]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

I also thought that as well.

It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.

That is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.

[WildBill]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

I also thought that as well.

It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.

That is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.

I had not considered that.

[Paladin]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

I also thought that as well.

It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.

That is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.

I had not considered that.

During the Cold War the CIA made sure to leak all the dead end "Star Wars" technology... so the Soviets would waste resources following up on all the dead ends... while concealing what did work.

I don't know that that's the case here, but its fascinating reading

[srothstein]

I have a hint on how you can tell they are lying. They mention the patent includes a combined underwater and aerospace craft. They cannot possibly be patenting that. I watched the flying sub leave the Seaview on TV in the mid 60's, so we must have already had that technology. After all, if we did not, it means Hollywood lied to us and I just cannot believe that.

[ELB]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

I also thought that as well.

It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.

That is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.

I had not considered that.

When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.

[powerboatr]

I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.

I also thought that as well.

It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.

That is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.

I had not considered that.

When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.

Ditto from a sailor,
it amazes me what people think they see with just a little prompting. but them again at how little they pay attention to something that just stands there looking at them in plain sight, no fanfare or anything.

[srothstein]

When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.

Ditto from a sailor,
it amazes me what people think they see with just a little prompting. but them again at how little they pay attention to something that just stands there looking at them in plain sight, no fanfare or anything.

As a cop, I always said the best disguise for robbing a bank was a police uniform. Walk in in uniform, stand in line properly, make polite chit-chat with the others in line, when it is your turn at the teller, rob them. No fuss no noise.

People will see the uniform and never see the person wearing it.

[PUCKER]

When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.

Ditto from a sailor,
it amazes me what people think they see with just a little prompting. but them again at how little they pay attention to something that just stands there looking at them in plain sight, no fanfare or anything.

As a cop, I always said the best disguise for robbing a bank was a police uniform. Walk in in uniform, stand in line properly, make polite chit-chat with the others in line, when it is your turn at the teller, rob them. No fuss no noise.

People will see the uniform and never see the person wearing it.

**Especially** during these current times...wearing a mask...easy peasy...not that I want a retirement plan in the gray bar hotel...

[crazy2medic]

This reminds me of the Air Force (?) HARP Project, been awhile since I read about that but seems to me it was more costly than the value of the results?