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Talk about generous journalism.philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:48 pm https://apple.news/Aw8cmBTdvSeGpsrNIk7HyIg
WAPO.
Police getting cozy with extreme right wing counter protestors.
Aww. A problem when your on the wrong side WAPO.
“antifa” looters planned to ransack the town, referring to a loosely knit movement of far-left activists.
In a link further down on that page:philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:48 pm https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08 ... s-angeles/
The post above this one is a joke.
This one is not.
Police shoot armed black man in LA.
Crowds gathering.
Typical lib ignorance. Jesus wasn't destroying private property. He was removing illegal money laundering from the Temple. A difference I'm sure will never penetrate a liberal brain.
Aiming for hard to hit, fast moving body parts is not a good way to stop an active threat without subjecting yourself to further risk of serious bodily harm. Respectfully suggest some introspection on mindset.
A 6000+ lbs. vehicle is a better weapon than a rifle in those situations. Using it as a deadly weapon isn't different than using a handgun in the final analysis. You'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Another thing to remember, is, in large groups, if they don't scatter once shooting starts, you're going to lose as long as they keep coming. You will take some with you, but you're going down.powerboatr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:19 pm i saw a video yesterday of a person driving what looked like a large RV and was stopped at a red light or stop sign ( the video was unclear). The car in front of the RV, got out of her car and opened trunk and then proceeded to bash out the drivers side windows of the RV. The driver videoed it, but took no action.
my concern, is the woman with the bat was a clear threat of safety and security of the RV driver. If he had simply drove forward and pushed her car out of the way, i am sure it would be a no brainier in regards to law enforcement. But also , the threat was real and the driver was in danger. would actions by him be justified, if he had put a few rounds into her to stop the threat to his safety or life. you know , a few through her arms or wrists to stop the threat?? This is the 2nd such video of similar incidents , where a large RV was stopped on a highway and hoodlums climbed up on top and were dancing and jumping on the roof, and prying open open baggage doors. the driver IMO should have simply floored the throttle and then apply brakes in a rapid fashion to remove such hoodlums from top of the RV, maybe some would have been run over or suffer injuries from falling 12 feet to the hard concrete.
I drive a large RV and both of these incidents, bother me and give me concern on how to counter the bad folks while protecting my family. portable speed bumps disguised as humans, blocking roadways, willfully choose to endanger their own lives and as such if get run over. I want to be protected as much as possible in the eyes of the law.
My old shop forman (and shop owner) always used to say that he would get more of them than they would get of him, and in that thought alone he slept better at night.chamberc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:59 pmA 6000+ lbs. vehicle is a better weapon than a rifle in those situations. Using it as a deadly weapon isn't different than using a handgun in the final analysis. You'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Another thing to remember, is, in large groups, if they don't scatter once shooting starts, you're going to lose as long as they keep coming. You will take some with you, but you're going down.powerboatr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:19 pm i saw a video yesterday of a person driving what looked like a large RV and was stopped at a red light or stop sign ( the video was unclear). The car in front of the RV, got out of her car and opened trunk and then proceeded to bash out the drivers side windows of the RV. The driver videoed it, but took no action.
my concern, is the woman with the bat was a clear threat of safety and security of the RV driver. If he had simply drove forward and pushed her car out of the way, i am sure it would be a no brainier in regards to law enforcement. But also , the threat was real and the driver was in danger. would actions by him be justified, if he had put a few rounds into her to stop the threat to his safety or life. you know , a few through her arms or wrists to stop the threat?? This is the 2nd such video of similar incidents , where a large RV was stopped on a highway and hoodlums climbed up on top and were dancing and jumping on the roof, and prying open open baggage doors. the driver IMO should have simply floored the throttle and then apply brakes in a rapid fashion to remove such hoodlums from top of the RV, maybe some would have been run over or suffer injuries from falling 12 feet to the hard concrete.
I drive a large RV and both of these incidents, bother me and give me concern on how to counter the bad folks while protecting my family. portable speed bumps disguised as humans, blocking roadways, willfully choose to endanger their own lives and as such if get run over. I want to be protected as much as possible in the eyes of the law.
I agree. It is a thought that has crossed my mind every time I see or read of one of these situations. The two best examples I have seen so far was the Austin incident where he drove off to get to safety after stopping the immediate threat and of course Kyle who also made his way to safety after stopping the immediate threat... or threats as his case was. One person can't possibly take out even 10-15 people mobbing them all at once. Stop immediate threat and escape to safety seems best move.chamberc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:59 pmA 6000+ lbs. vehicle is a better weapon than a rifle in those situations. Using it as a deadly weapon isn't different than using a handgun in the final analysis. You'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Another thing to remember, is, in large groups, if they don't scatter once shooting starts, you're going to lose as long as they keep coming. You will take some with you, but you're going down.powerboatr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:19 pm i saw a video yesterday of a person driving what looked like a large RV and was stopped at a red light or stop sign ( the video was unclear). The car in front of the RV, got out of her car and opened trunk and then proceeded to bash out the drivers side windows of the RV. The driver videoed it, but took no action.
my concern, is the woman with the bat was a clear threat of safety and security of the RV driver. If he had simply drove forward and pushed her car out of the way, i am sure it would be a no brainier in regards to law enforcement. But also , the threat was real and the driver was in danger. would actions by him be justified, if he had put a few rounds into her to stop the threat to his safety or life. you know , a few through her arms or wrists to stop the threat?? This is the 2nd such video of similar incidents , where a large RV was stopped on a highway and hoodlums climbed up on top and were dancing and jumping on the roof, and prying open open baggage doors. the driver IMO should have simply floored the throttle and then apply brakes in a rapid fashion to remove such hoodlums from top of the RV, maybe some would have been run over or suffer injuries from falling 12 feet to the hard concrete.
I drive a large RV and both of these incidents, bother me and give me concern on how to counter the bad folks while protecting my family. portable speed bumps disguised as humans, blocking roadways, willfully choose to endanger their own lives and as such if get run over. I want to be protected as much as possible in the eyes of the law.
Used to drive my wife nuts until she got used to it; occasional horn honks from the car behind never helped. When driving on surface streets I always stay to the right unless there's a really wide and open median; but never in middle lanes. This means I brake a lot for right-turners and make it to my destination a couple of minutes slower than otherwise.
For most vehicles - if you can see where the rear tires touch the road, then you have room to drive around it. Keeping space open on the sides can be difficult. If you have to push another vehicle - it will move easier if hit either forward of the front wheels, or rearward of the rear wheels, than it will if hit between them.
