Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions

[joe817]

Wow! Just listened to the mayor of Dallas. They are implementing the toughest restrictions in Texas....for now:

No sit down service at ALL restaurants. Only take out, drive thru, or delivery.
No gatherings of 50 or more
All theaters, entertainment venues, Gyms, health clubs, bars, taverns, microbreweries, CLOSED.

All go into effect tonight(03/16/2020)

Dallas county school districts closed, until further notice(might be only Dallas ISD though).

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus ... y/2331562/

[PriestTheRunner]

Can somebody explain to me how this is legal?

Sure I think its a good idea, but it is still PERSONAL responsibility and decisions that should dictate, not top down implimentation.

Friggin police state.

[joe817]

What's next? Curfew for all citizens? Bringing out the National Guard to enforce that curfew? Hmmmm......

Almost sounds like martial law, doesn't it?

[jason812]

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

[snapcap45]

What's next? Curfew for all citizens? Bringing out the National Guard to enforce that curfew? Hmmmm......

Almost sounds like martial law, doesn't it?

I just saw in the news that New Jersey has implemented a mandatory curfew from 8pm to 5am until further notice. I hope that doesn't happen here.

[Grayling813]

The patriots’ answer to the city of Dallas would be, “and if we don’t comply, what are you going to do about it?”

[cirus]

Can somebody explain to me how this is legal?

Sure I think its a good idea, but it is still PERSONAL responsibility and decisions that should dictate, not top down implimentation.

Friggin police state.

If we depend on people being responsible and making smart decisions we're all dead. Just got to Wal-Mart or the grocery store and see if people can be trusted to do the right thing. They're buying up baby formula and leaving none for those that really need it. I'm all about freedom and very untrusting of the government but most people are idiots.

[Teamless]

Harris county (Houston area) just announced about the same

[jmorris]

What's next? Curfew for all citizens? Bringing out the National Guard to enforce that curfew? Hmmmm......

Almost sounds like martial law, doesn't it?

"Officials in six San Francisco Bay Area counties issued a sweeping shelter-in-place mandate Monday affecting nearly 7 million people, ordering residents to stay at home and go outside only for food, medicine and outings that are absolutely essential."

ABC News: San Francisco Bay Area counties issue shelter-in-place order - ABC ....
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... e-69627648

[flechero]

Can somebody explain to me how this is legal?

Sure I think its a good idea, but it is still PERSONAL responsibility and decisions that should dictate, not top down implimentation.

Friggin police state.

The State of emergency changes the normal rules, I believe.

While I understand your sentiment, in this case I support it. A large percentage of the population would not adhere to a 'please stay home' request... and as one who has a number of high risk family members, I see this as a good move. Also have several friends who are Dr.'s and they also support it.

[PriestTheRunner]

Can somebody explain to me how this is legal?

Sure I think its a good idea, but it is still PERSONAL responsibility and decisions that should dictate, not top down implimentation.

Friggin police state.

The State of emergency changes the normal rules, I believe.

While I understand your sentiment, in this case I support it. A large percentage of the population would not adhere to a 'please stay home' request... and as one who has a number of high risk family members, I see this as a good move. Also have several friends who are Dr.'s and they also support it.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Amendment I: Violated via mandated maximum assemblies.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II: Violated via several emergency declarations, and the right to muster a militia. See Example
A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV: Violated via New York's "volunteering" of a profiteer's hand sanitizer stash. Ya the guy is a douchbag, but that doesn't mean he gets to have his rights violated. See Example
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V: Violated via Dallas among dozens of others forcefully closing resturaunts. If someone CANNOT use his private property however he deems fit, then the government is 'taking' it. See Example
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI: Violated via the siezure of property without provision of a lawyer, as well as not allowing jury trials for Emminent Domain upon which such seizures are based.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII: Violated via the siezure of property without allowing a jury trial when the Government is the defendant.
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII: What are the fines going to be if someone refuses to close? I'm gonna bet they will be excessive.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX: IE, the government only gets to do that which it has been specifically, CONSTITUTIONALLY, enumerated. Just having 'emergency powers' in the millions of laws on the books doesn't make it constitutional.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X: II guess the 10th is safe for once, at least for now.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

[ET-Ret]

I just got word from my next door friends that teach in GP TX schools will be closed thru the end of school year.
Wow Watch the news .

[flechero]

Well you better load up your mags, skippy, and start blazing away and take your rights back. Let us know how that works out for you.

Funny you even said you thought it was a good idea- but only if it was a personal decision.

Forest through the trees, man, forest through the trees.

[powerboatr]

What's next? Curfew for all citizens? Bringing out the National Guard to enforce that curfew? Hmmmm......

Almost sounds like martial law, doesn't it?

"Officials in six San Francisco Bay Area counties issued a sweeping shelter-in-place mandate Monday affecting nearly 7 million people, ordering residents to stay at home and go outside only for food, medicine and outings that are absolutely essential."

ABC News: San Francisco Bay Area counties issue shelter-in-place order - ABC ....
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... e-69627648

and all the street sleepers must stay in their tents

[OneGun]

PTR clearly has concerns about the actions our politicians and governments are taking because of the Wuhan Virus. I understand his position;, I'm just not comfortable with his willingness to bet my life on people acting rationally to avoid the government taking drastic measures to safeguard our families and communities. To me, the virus has started World War III where the enemy is a germ that was born in Wuhan China.

People are not acting rationally, or doing their civic duty or thinking of anyone besides themselves. People have been acting greedy. Have you seen the store shelves for toilet paper.? People's vanity to have clean buttocks during this crisis is amazing. There has been a run on guns and ammo. People act like we're going to be living in the world of The Walking Dead.

The actions are being taken to "flatten the curve". The objective is mitigate the spread of the virus so that our healthcare system, with a fixed amount of resources, does not become overwhelmed. Otherwise, more people will needlessly die from this virus because of the lack of medical services. I have cancer and undergoing treatment. I'm at risk. I'm doing my part. Staying and working from home. Keep my social distance from others. I go out get food and supplies. I wash my hands many times a day. I do not have any sanitizer. None in the stores. However, I cannot say that all of my neighbors are being as responsible.

My neighbor is Vice Chair at the UT Medical School. What he explained is (1) The virus can live a lot longer in the air and on surfaces than the flu. (2) The mortality rate of the virus is an order of magnitude higher than the flu. (3) The virus is more contagious than the flu. (4) Because this is a novel virus, there is not vaccine yet. Bottom line, this virus has much greater potential than the flu to kill many more people.