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Right again Mr. Buddha!Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:35 pm I personally don't paint the entire Muslim faith with the terror brush, but I give no quarter to political Islamism. Been to many a Muslim country without hassle, save for Qatar.
I might say however that if there is widespread condemnation of political Islamic terror among mainstream imams, we just don't see it publicized in the media which is a shame.
I don't either. My primary problem is with the flawed ideology called Islam and those that carry out its commandments.Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:35 pm I personally don't paint the entire Muslim faith with the terror brush, but I give no quarter to political Islamism. Been to many a Muslim country without hassle, save for Qatar.
I might say however that if there is widespread condemnation of political Islamic terror among mainstream imams, we just don't see it publicized in the media which is a shame.
I also understand why those that do not carry out or believe in following through with the commandments of Islam do not openly condemn or criticize those that do. It's because they do want to be considered hypocrites and become targets like many "moderate" or "educated" Muslims do.As individuals, Muslims make their own choices about which parts of their religion they practice and which parts they would rather dismiss via the guise of "context".
Adherents may think or say whatever they want to about Islam, it doesn't change what Islam says about itself. As a documented ideology, Islam exists independently of anyone's opinion. As such, it may be studied objectively, apart from how anyone practices or chooses to interpret it.
Not saying I agree with them for not standing up to them but I do understand why they don't. Understanding something does not indicate endorsement.Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am "First they came for the Easter worshippers, then some people did something..."
Totally LOL'd, but you got it backwards...Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am "First they came for the Easter worshippers, then some people did something..."
RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:52 pmTotally LOL'd, but you got it backwards...Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am "First they came for the Easter worshippers, then some people did something..."
First some people did something, then they came for the Easter worshipers.
My bad...
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tammy-b ... -of-terrorSome on both the left and the right have dismissed the concern about this new “Easter worshipers” euphemism for Christians as much ado about nothing. But context is important. One would be shocked and concerned if national political leaders began referring to Jewish people exclusively as “Menorah lighters,” or “Passover participants.” We all would have been outraged if, in the aftermath of the New Zealand mosque attacks, Obama and Clinton referred to the victims not as Muslims but only as “Ramadan participants.” But they didn’t. They rightly called the victims who they were and are—Muslims.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... d-n2545202...I take special exception to Omar’s disgusting comments because I served in the Battle of Mogadishu, which was later portrayed in the movie “Black Hawk Down.” If you aren’t familiar with the real story behind “Black Hawk Down,” let me set the scene for you.
In late 1992, President George H. W. Bush launched Operation Restore Hope in support of United Nations initiatives to restore some semblance of law and order to Somalia, which was wracked by devastating famine and violent warlords eager to use the chaos and hopelessness to establish corrupt fiefdoms.
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Task Force Ranger was the 1993 military effort ordered by President Bill Clinton to capture Aidid and his lieutenants so the U.N. could deliver food and medical aid without fear of being attacked or killed by Aidid’s forces. The American soldiers Omar attacked in her tweet — the men of Task Force Ranger –weren’t sent to Somalia for fame or fortune. They weren’t there because of a deep desire to visit the God-forsaken nation of Somalia. They were deployed to support peacekeepers who were desperate to rescue the country from starvation and the ravages of civil war. To do that, they had to capture the men responsible for it.
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I am thankful Omar and her family and countless others were able to escape to neighboring Kenya while we fought to protect those left behind, but I simply cannot comprehend her attitude towards those of us who fought to protect her country and countrymen from warlords who plunged Somalia only further into violence and starvation. I am glad that Omar can now enjoy the very freedoms we fought to protect, like the freedom of speech and the free exercise of religion affirmed in the U.S. Constitution, but I don’t understand why she uses those freedoms to slur the men and women of the U.S. military who made her security and liberty a reality.
The simple truth is that Omar enjoys the fruits of American combat deaths, yet she can’t even bring herself to acknowledge the ultimate sacrifice that was made on her behalf, either as a Somali or an American. Her clan didn’t stand a chance against Aidid and Habar Gidirs, so I don’t blame her for leaving. But I do blame her for attacking those of us who had zero personal interest or investment in her nation for doing our jobs on behalf of our country. And I blame her for smearing American servicemen because we answered the call of our nation to address the violent barbarism of hers.
Unlike Omar, I’m not a politician. I don’t have power or influence. I don’t have a vote in Congress or the ability to direct America’s foreign policy. I’m just one of the men who strapped it on as a member of Task Force Ranger and went into harm’s way to help bring peace and security to her and her people. And let me tell you, she missed a helluva fight.
