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Pokemon Go! as a nuisance to other outdoor activities
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I just don't understand how this could happen. I mean, they have such strict gun control laws there. That should totally stop this type of thing, right?
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I have read on this thread how all of this is just a group of innocent folks playing a game and we shouldn't complain. A group of the babies "playing the game" (about 12 suspects) plowed down a fence at the Roseland Cemetary in Tyler and drove inside. Tyler PD responded with a tactical team ($$$$) and the it is my understanding that the fence they destroyed was $6200.00 to replace. I know just leave them alone they are innocent folks just having fun.
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There are bad apples in every group. I've managed to use the game to get my buddy's son out from in front of his computer and walking around the park. The walking has been good for me as well, as I needed more exercise (gravity has a stronger pull on me as I get older).carlson1 wrote:I have read on this thread how all of this is just a group of innocent folks playing a game and we shouldn't complain. A group of the babies "playing the game" (about 12 suspects) plowed down a fence at the Roseland Cemetary in Tyler and drove inside. Tyler PD responded with a tactical team ($$$$) and the it is my understanding that the fence they destroyed was $6200.00 to replace. I know just leave them alone they are innocent folks just having fun.
I've seen people driving around playing. You can tell by the way they drive and slow down at certain spots. I've typically handed my phone over to a passenger so that I can hit the poke-stops safely while I'm driving. Once we arrive at the park, it's usually walking or sitting at a picnic table.
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Again, are we, the 2A crowd really going to be throwing stones at an activity that has an occasional bad apple? Really? The 2A would be gone by lunch tomorrow if out of millions of users we only had to focus on a few folks that are probably idiots no matter what activity they take up. As posted further up in the thread a gun owner killed a Pokemon Go player. Compared to a fence, that isn't even close. I guess we should also leave those innocent gun owners alone too. They're just having fun.carlson1 wrote:I have read on this thread how all of this is just a group of innocent folks playing a game and we shouldn't complain. A group of the babies "playing the game" (about 12 suspects) plowed down a fence at the Roseland Cemetary in Tyler and drove inside. Tyler PD responded with a tactical team ($$$$) and the it is my understanding that the fence they destroyed was $6200.00 to replace. I know just leave them alone they are innocent folks just having fun.
Angry about a fence and the desecration of a cemetery, 100% valid. Throwing an entire group of folks under the bus for the actions of a few? Seems like a tactic I've seen used a lot by the other side. Prior to this thread I would have hoped that we collectively would have been above that. But alas, it seems to keep coming up.
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There has been more than just a fence. There have been injury's, thefts, deaths, robberies, etc... Ignore it if you wish, but it is a mounting problem. It may be a "game" to some to others it is "criminal." Property owners have no control over their property being made targets. It boils down to an immature generation that have no control. They have taken their adolescent activities on to others private property.goose wrote:Again, are we, the 2A crowd really going to be throwing stones at an activity that has an occasional bad apple? Really? The 2A would be gone by lunch tomorrow if out of millions of users we only had to focus on a few folks that are probably idiots no matter what activity they take up. As posted further up in the thread a gun owner killed a Pokemon Go player. Compared to a fence, that isn't even close. I guess we should also leave those innocent gun owners alone too. They're just having fun.carlson1 wrote:I have read on this thread how all of this is just a group of innocent folks playing a game and we shouldn't complain. A group of the babies "playing the game" (about 12 suspects) plowed down a fence at the Roseland Cemetary in Tyler and drove inside. Tyler PD responded with a tactical team ($$$$) and the it is my understanding that the fence they destroyed was $6200.00 to replace. I know just leave them alone they are innocent folks just having fun.
Angry about a fence and the desecration of a cemetery, 100% valid. Throwing an entire group of folks under the bus for the actions of a few? Seems like a tactic I've seen used a lot by the other side. Prior to this thread I would have hoped that we collectively would have been above that. But alas, it seems to keep coming up.
There is nothing else to be said because it is obvious there are a few (who have never grown up) who just do not respect property, property rights, and in many cases life. It is all about an imaginary character.
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carlson1 is right on the money.
Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the Poke people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant.
Acting like 12 year old tantrum throwing entitled children when they perform acts of criminality in pursuit of their goals isn't a group playing a harmless game. It's a group of inconsiderate buffoons who care not what harm they perpetrate. Then to make matters worse, as so-called adults, they whine "but we're just playing". This pathetic excuse won't stand up in court...
Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the Poke people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant.
Acting like 12 year old tantrum throwing entitled children when they perform acts of criminality in pursuit of their goals isn't a group playing a harmless game. It's a group of inconsiderate buffoons who care not what harm they perpetrate. Then to make matters worse, as so-called adults, they whine "but we're just playing". This pathetic excuse won't stand up in court...
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Let me fix that for you. "Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the gun people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant." Sounds familiar, doesn't it?Abraham wrote:carlson1 is right on the money.
Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the Poke people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant.
Acting like 12 year old tantrum throwing entitled children when they perform acts of criminality in pursuit of their goals isn't a group playing a harmless game. It's a group of inconsiderate buffoons who care not what harm they perpetrate. Then to make matters worse, as so-called adults, they whine "but we're just playing". This pathetic excuse won't stand up in court...
The truth is, this thread is the only place I hear about negative Pokemon experiences. Do they happen? Absolutely. Is it anywhere near the epidemic some of you make it out to be? I highly doubt it. But hey, lets restrict everyone's ability to do an otherwise legal activity just because a small minority might break the law. Maybe Shannon Watts can help you guys form a new group. You can call it "Cranky Men Demand Action for Pokemon Sense in America".
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I'm gonna go ahead and hack off some fellow forum members here: If you think driving a car on the streets/highways and playing a game on your phone at the same time is acceptable, I really question whether you have the required sense to be carrying a handgun.
Soapbox Alert!
Every day in DFW I see vehicles narrowly missing hitting or being hit by someone staring at their phones. I see vehicles flying through traffic, changing lanes continuously, without regards to whether or not the drivers around them are paying attention to their surroundings. Vehicles constantly are braking sharply behind me and stopping just short of impact, often in the rear view mirror they are either staring at their phone or talking on it.
Soapbox Alert!
Every day in DFW I see vehicles narrowly missing hitting or being hit by someone staring at their phones. I see vehicles flying through traffic, changing lanes continuously, without regards to whether or not the drivers around them are paying attention to their surroundings. Vehicles constantly are braking sharply behind me and stopping just short of impact, often in the rear view mirror they are either staring at their phone or talking on it.
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You sound like a progressive creating straw man arguments to justify their actions.jkurtz wrote:Let me fix that for you. "Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the gun people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant." Sounds familiar, doesn't it?Abraham wrote:carlson1 is right on the money.
Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the Poke people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant.
Acting like 12 year old tantrum throwing entitled children when they perform acts of criminality in pursuit of their goals isn't a group playing a harmless game. It's a group of inconsiderate buffoons who care not what harm they perpetrate. Then to make matters worse, as so-called adults, they whine "but we're just playing". This pathetic excuse won't stand up in court...
The truth is, this thread is the only place I hear about negative Pokemon experiences. Do they happen? Absolutely. Is it anywhere near the epidemic some of you make it out to be? I highly doubt it. But hey, lets restrict everyone's ability to do an otherwise legal activity just because a small minority might break the law. Maybe Shannon Watts can help you guys form a new group. You can call it "Cranky Men Demand Action for Pokemon Sense in America".
The left lies about everything. Truth is a liberal value, and truth is a conservative value, but it has never been a left-wing value. People on the left say whatever advances their immediate agenda. Power is their moral lodestar; therefore, truth is always subservient to it. - Dennis Prager
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I don't think anyone here was advocating that it is acceptable to play a game and drive at the same time.bblhd672 wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and hack off some fellow forum members here: If you think driving a car on the streets/highways and playing a game on your phone at the same time is acceptable, I really question whether you have the required sense to be carrying a handgun.
I agree, but this has been observable long before the game came out. I have noticed little to no change since its release.bblhd672 wrote:Soapbox Alert!
Every day in DFW I see vehicles narrowly missing hitting or being hit by someone staring at their phones. I see vehicles flying through traffic, changing lanes continuously, without regards to whether or not the drivers around them are paying attention to their surroundings. Vehicles constantly are braking sharply behind me and stopping just short of impact, often in the rear view mirror they are either staring at their phone or talking on it.
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:-) you beat me to my response. "Pokemon Pandemic as identified onTexasCHLforum."jkurtz wrote:Let me fix that for you. "Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the gun people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant." Sounds familiar, doesn't it?Abraham wrote:carlson1 is right on the money.
Were such criminal acts perpetrated by the Poke people rare then I doubt anyone would complain. The fact is their criminal acts are rampant.
Acting like 12 year old tantrum throwing entitled children when they perform acts of criminality in pursuit of their goals isn't a group playing a harmless game. It's a group of inconsiderate buffoons who care not what harm they perpetrate. Then to make matters worse, as so-called adults, they whine "but we're just playing". This pathetic excuse won't stand up in court...
The truth is, this thread is the only place I hear about negative Pokemon experiences. Do they happen? Absolutely. Is it anywhere near the epidemic some of you make it out to be? I highly doubt it. But hey, lets restrict everyone's ability to do an otherwise legal activity just because a small minority might break the law. Maybe Shannon Watts can help you guys form a new group. You can call it "Cranky Men Demand Action for Pokemon Sense in America".
Of all the folks spot on in this thread, you are spot on. I am still just baffled that 2A folks here are using the logic of the left (a few bad apples represent the whole) that is so often derided here.
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How so? I do not play the game. However, I am not going to say no one should be allowed to play the game just because some can't do so responsibly. That is literally the same logic anti-gunners try using against us.bblhd672 wrote:You sound like a progressive creating straw man arguments to justify their actions.
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I'm against doing anything with a cell phone while driving a car. It's stupid and dangerous, and it's the absolute number one killer of motorcyclists.
However, I am also against drinking alcohol while driving a car. Does this mean we should make drinking alcohol illegal? No. It means we should ban drinking alcohol while driving a car. So that's what we did. Banning cell phone use while driving is a great idea. Banning some dumb game, not so much. I'm told the game won't work if your phone detects that you're travelling more than 35 mph. I don't know if that's true or not, as I don't play this game. If so, let's drop that to about 15 mph. That should keep people from playing while driving.
As far as players committing other acts of foolishness while playing, comparisons to guns, cars, alcohol, disc golf, dirtbike riding, geocaching, etc. are all valid as far as I'm concerned. There are dumb people in every segment of society. Dumb people do dumb things. Getting rid of a dumb game won't get rid of dumb people. It will just make them find something else to do.
However, I am also against drinking alcohol while driving a car. Does this mean we should make drinking alcohol illegal? No. It means we should ban drinking alcohol while driving a car. So that's what we did. Banning cell phone use while driving is a great idea. Banning some dumb game, not so much. I'm told the game won't work if your phone detects that you're travelling more than 35 mph. I don't know if that's true or not, as I don't play this game. If so, let's drop that to about 15 mph. That should keep people from playing while driving.
As far as players committing other acts of foolishness while playing, comparisons to guns, cars, alcohol, disc golf, dirtbike riding, geocaching, etc. are all valid as far as I'm concerned. There are dumb people in every segment of society. Dumb people do dumb things. Getting rid of a dumb game won't get rid of dumb people. It will just make them find something else to do.
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carlson1 wrote:There has been more than just a fence. There have been injury's, thefts, deaths, robberies, etc... Ignore it if you wish, but it is a mounting problem. It may be a "game" to some to others it is "criminal." Property owners have no control over their property being made targets. It boils down to an immature generation that have no control. They have taken their adolescent activities on to others private property.goose wrote:Again, are we, the 2A crowd really going to be throwing stones at an activity that has an occasional bad apple? Really? The 2A would be gone by lunch tomorrow if out of millions of users we only had to focus on a few folks that are probably idiots no matter what activity they take up. As posted further up in the thread a gun owner killed a Pokemon Go player. Compared to a fence, that isn't even close. I guess we should also leave those innocent gun owners alone too. They're just having fun.carlson1 wrote:I have read on this thread how all of this is just a group of innocent folks playing a game and we shouldn't complain. A group of the babies "playing the game" (about 12 suspects) plowed down a fence at the Roseland Cemetary in Tyler and drove inside. Tyler PD responded with a tactical team ($$$$) and the it is my understanding that the fence they destroyed was $6200.00 to replace. I know just leave them alone they are innocent folks just having fun.
Angry about a fence and the desecration of a cemetery, 100% valid. Throwing an entire group of folks under the bus for the actions of a few? Seems like a tactic I've seen used a lot by the other side. Prior to this thread I would have hoped that we collectively would have been above that. But alas, it seems to keep coming up.
There is nothing else to be said because it is obvious there are a few (who have never grown up) who just do not respect property, property rights, and in many cases life. It is all about an imaginary character.
There is a way to have your property removed from the game as many have done so I'm my area. We have them coming into our campus late at night playing Pokemon and have yet to encounter a problem. Stop painting everyone playing a game with a negative brush. The actions of a few don't speak for the majority.
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