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I don't know the exact story, but here's what I heard about the Spanish requirement. There was a congressman who has a lot of Hispanic constituents. He wanted 30.06 to be in Spanish as well, so his constituents could read the sign.Swoops1 wrote:Just unfollowed a certain OC Advocacy group on FB.I think had I seen one more post about signs I was going to loose my mind. They talk about the size the color, to letter size, contrasting backgrounds, it was in english not in Spanish. I realize the sign is important but, evidently you saw it, which means it was big enough to read, you could read what ever language it was written in. Don't start bashing I am pro 2A and I believe if you can purchase a gun legally you should be able to carry it. Why just English and Spanish aren't we leaving out the French, German, Chinese, Vietnamese out don't forget Arabic![]()
Okay rant over.
Beiruty wrote:Anyone who lives in this great country on permanent basis, should be able to read and write and understand English. Otherwise, he is not doing himself a service, and would be dependent on others to live like a free person.
Given that there is no official U.S. language it makes no sense that knowing one specific language would be a requirement for citizenship.Oldgringo wrote:Beiruty wrote:Anyone who lives in this great country on permanent basis, should be able to read and write and understand English. Otherwise, he is not doing himself a service, and would be dependent on others to live like a free person., speaking English and having a photo ID should be the minimum requirement for citizenship.
There's also no requirement for citizens to obtain a photo ID. I'd wager that would be a 4th Amendment violation.3dfxMM wrote:Given that there is no official U.S. language it makes no sense that knowing one specific language would be a requirement for citizenship.Oldgringo wrote:Beiruty wrote:Anyone who lives in this great country on permanent basis, should be able to read and write and understand English. Otherwise, he is not doing himself a service, and would be dependent on others to live like a free person., speaking English and having a photo ID should be the minimum requirement for citizenship.
The law was not amended to add Spanish to §30.06. It was in HB2909 (1997) when TPC §30.06 was established. Why Spanish was included is an issue I cannot discuss.mr1337 wrote:You'd be surprised how far a translate app can get you these days.
You're also forgetting that Spanish is the primary language in PR. Chamorro is very common in Guam. I'm sure some Inuit tribes don't know a lick of English. All of these places are in the US.
Being a free country, it's their choice to learn the language or not. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the Spanish requirement for 30.06 and 30.07. The state legislature thought it was big enough of a concern to amend the law to include the language. Until someone thinks it's a big enough concern to remove it, it will be there.
Now see what you did... Before I didn't care why it was included, but now I really want to know. It makes it sound sinister or backhanded... like it was something other than making sure that our Border Brothers had effective notice under the law.Charles L. Cotton wrote:The law was not amended to add Spanish to §30.06. It was in HB2909 (1997) when TPC §30.06 was established. Why Spanish was included is an issue I cannot discuss.mr1337 wrote:You'd be surprised how far a translate app can get you these days.
You're also forgetting that Spanish is the primary language in PR. Chamorro is very common in Guam. I'm sure some Inuit tribes don't know a lick of English. All of these places are in the US.
Being a free country, it's their choice to learn the language or not. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the Spanish requirement for 30.06 and 30.07. The state legislature thought it was big enough of a concern to amend the law to include the language. Until someone thinks it's a big enough concern to remove it, it will be there.
Chas.
Swoops1 wrote:Why just English and Spanish aren't we leaving out the French, German, Chinese, Vietnamese out don't forget Arabic. Okay rant over.
I reckon I was thinking of a photo ID to vote as well as the other things for which one must produce a photo ID; e.g., booze, checks, DL, CHL, job, passport, etc., etc.mr1337 wrote:There's also no requirement for citizens to obtain a photo ID. I'd wager that would be a 4th Amendment violation.3dfxMM wrote:Given that there is no official U.S. language it makes no sense that knowing one specific language would be a requirement for citizenship.Oldgringo wrote:Beiruty wrote:Anyone who lives in this great country on permanent basis, should be able to read and write and understand English. Otherwise, he is not doing himself a service, and would be dependent on others to live like a free person., speaking English and having a photo ID should be the minimum requirement for citizenship.