Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
Further evidence of a setup:
According to this article, Ahmed didn't build the clock at all - it allegedly consisted of the guts of an identifiable Radio Shack alarm clock according to its configuration and the numbers printed on the circuit board.
The whole thing now looks like an islamist psyops exercise that worked predictably and spectacularly well.
I hope Irving PD looks into this, and, if it is true, holds press conferences and sends letters to MIT and the White House about Ahmed's actual "accomplishment."
According to this article, Ahmed didn't build the clock at all - it allegedly consisted of the guts of an identifiable Radio Shack alarm clock according to its configuration and the numbers printed on the circuit board.
The whole thing now looks like an islamist psyops exercise that worked predictably and spectacularly well.
I hope Irving PD looks into this, and, if it is true, holds press conferences and sends letters to MIT and the White House about Ahmed's actual "accomplishment."
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
So his "clock" meets the definition of hoax bomb.Beiruty wrote:So what is hoax bomb? And do you show a hoax bomb to your teacher???! In layman terms, hoax bomb is device wired and made to look like bomb but no real explosive material. Something like this yu'all kidos:
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What amazes me is that with all that has come out since the incident, he is not being prosecuted.Beiruty wrote: What amazes me is that the school, the PD did not retract or apologized for the suspension or the arrest.
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It's certainly not possible his father had any influence on the impressionable kid given his background, oh, wait...
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Yahtzee! There's the Acme 5000 Bomb with Timer, the standard for all serious bombs for decades.Beiruty wrote:So what is hoax bomb? And do you show a hoax bomb to your teacher???! In layman terms, hoax bomb is device wired and made to look like bomb but no real explosive material. Something like this yu'all kidos:
When you absolutely, positively have to have a bomb that looks like a bomb.
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BTW, when I was with TSA, I was "privileged" to find this in a bag that had triggered an alarm for a different reason. Despite the obvious non-bomb nature of the device, the passenger whose bag it was in was arrested for his hoax bomb. After his arrest he was in the hands of Dallas Police and TSA had no further involvement unless they decided to prosecute at a higher level, so I have no idea of the ultimate outcome, but it still meets the definition of a hoax bomb, as does Ahmed's little project, so Ahmed should be arrested and tried and let the judge and jury sort it out.
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I am not convinced his intentions were pure and innocent.
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It appears, the “clock” Mohamed brought to school this week was not the first of his circuit boards to look ominously like an improvised explosive device trigger. In fact, a photograph of one circulated by the Dallas Morning News was virtually indistinguishable from a circuit board used in a commercially available device used to train law enforcement and military personnel regarding how to identify IEDs.
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Since you seem to be an expert on explosives, how many real bombs have you seen? I am just wondering what real experience you have to be making determinations on what does or does not look like a bomb. If you have read through this entire thread you will see that I do have actual experience working with explosives and I doubt seriously you have any real experience but I may have missed something in this thread.You and others keep saying it looks like a bomb or a hoax bomb...hooey. As the photo above shows it looks like, and is, a disassembled alarm clock. I get that scientific and technical knowledge in this country is at pretty pathetic levels, but one would pretty much have to be a technophobe or have a pretty lurid imagination to turn something so obviously prosaic into an explosive device. The idea of a hoax bomb is to make people think it's a bomb. That could have easily been accomplished by adding something that could be mistaken for an explosive charge. That "hoax bomb" wouldn't have hoaxed my grandma.
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
I was a major nerd and built an Argon LASER for my 7th grade science fair. Lost to a mold experiment. In fifth grade I built a random logic circuit and lost to something equally lame. So I understand nerd, I am a card carrying nerd. But I also realize when someone does something for a reaction.
To me it's like the kid who put oregano in a baggie then got upset when he got in trouble for it. This little sociopath KNEW what his gadget looked like, he knew how they'd react. And now we have Twitter, MIT and the POTUS kissing his feet. I wonder if a Caucasian protestant kid did the same thing, whether he'd be White House bound? No? Thought not.
FWIW, I agree with Excalibur's scenario.
To me it's like the kid who put oregano in a baggie then got upset when he got in trouble for it. This little sociopath KNEW what his gadget looked like, he knew how they'd react. And now we have Twitter, MIT and the POTUS kissing his feet. I wonder if a Caucasian protestant kid did the same thing, whether he'd be White House bound? No? Thought not.
FWIW, I agree with Excalibur's scenario.
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
Dragonfighter and Excalibur have it figured out.
Pretty simple really...
Pretty simple really...
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Dragonfighter wrote:I was a major nerd and built an Argon LASER for my 7th grade science fair. Lost to a mold experiment. In fifth grade I built a random logic circuit and lost to something equally lame. So I understand nerd, I am a card carrying nerd. But I also realize when someone does something for a reaction.
To me it's like the kid who put oregano in a baggie then got upset when he got in trouble for it. This little sociopath KNEW what his gadget looked like, he knew how they'd react. And now we have Twitter, MIT and the POTUS kissing his feet. I wonder if a Caucasian protestant kid did the same thing, whether he'd be White House bound? No? Thought not.
FWIW, I agree with Excalibur's scenario.
The White House would be screaming for his blood.
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
You may have the last word.
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
Just think of the criticism the school and cops would be subjected to if they saw the device and did nothing and the kid paired it up with an explosive to injure or kill some of the other students. The same people defending the kid today and criticising the school and cops would still be complaining because they did nothing when they discovered what could obviously be used as a timed triggering device for a bomb.
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Or thisBeiruty wrote:So what is hoax bomb? And do you show a hoax bomb to your teacher???! In layman terms, hoax bomb is device wired and made to look like bomb but no real explosive material. Something like this yu'all kidos:
Which someone did leave to try and pass off as a bomb. I think the kids looks better myself.
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Re: Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested
I think everyone here has a valid point. I think it is wrong to question the young man's motives, and yes, this is a travesty. BUT, think of the flip side of the coin. Hypothetically, let's say there was a bomb, and it was detonated, the public would have been INFURIATED with the school for allowing this to have passed through the doors. Imagine your children attend this school! We made a mockery of TSA for failing the system a few months ago, during the random inspection of their operations. I know we want to live Ina world where it is impossible for a teenager to pull this off, but in reality we don't live in that world.
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