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Movie-The Brave One (coming soon)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:24 am
by RCP
Has anyone else seen the trailer for this movie? I was watching it on yahoo's coming soon movie trailers. Not sure what to think of it kind of makes me feel like they are trying to portray anyone who carries as some kind of vigilante. Maybe I'm just reading to much into it and should just look at it as entertainment. Just curious if anyone else had seen the trailer or preview and what your thoughts were on it.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:29 am
by RCP
Try this as a link to the trailer

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808721621/video

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:33 am
by seamusTX
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0476964/

It sounds like a remake of Death Wish with a female lead. Personally I dislike that kind of movie.

- Jim

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:35 am
by RCP
Heres another movie coming out soon called "Death Sentence" that describes Kevin Bacon as transforming from family man to "gun toting vigilante". Seems to be a common movie topic this summer.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809765379/video/3826229/

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:38 am
by Charles L. Cotton
Jodie Foster will not be in a movie that doesn't ultimately have an anti-gun message. I agree that the Death Wish style movies play to the argument by anti-CHL'ers that anyone with a CHL is a would-be vigilante. That's not the theme of that series of movies, but that's how the anti's would try to use it.

That said, I don't think movies have any impact on the political scene.

Chas.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:55 am
by O6nop
There's no telling what sort of spin Hollywood will put on guns. Jodie Foster can probably pick and choose the movies she wants to be in. I don't really know her stand on gun ownership. A couple of her recent movies have been dealing with fear and taking responsibility for controlling it and for your own life and the ones you care about... Flightplan and Panic Room. Others were Silence of the Lambs and the Accused. all really good movies. And don't forget Taxi Driver.

This may end up being a twist on Death Wish, but probably with a more tragic ending, both for the character and for gun ownership. I do want to go see it though, despite how I'll bet that it portrays guns. (I hope I'm wrong).

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:18 am
by frankie_the_yankee
The irony is that the same people sitting in the audience cheering for the protaganist as they blow the bad guys away (under dubious legal circumstances) are the ones who will vote for anti gun rights politicians who want to take our gun rights away (not to mention the people who MAKE the movies who should and probably do know better).

My guess is that they tend to not be gun owners themselves.

Meanwhile, gun rights advocates such as the people on this board cringe when we see these 'Death Wish' storylines play out, as we know that the vigilantism that is depicted is both highly illegal and not typical AT ALL of CHL'ers.

Basically, an underlying theme of these movies is vengence, which WE all know has no place in the law. But with the non gun owning public not knowledgeable about these concepts, it is all too easy for people to get the wrong idea as to what self defense is all about.

For these reasons, I believe these movies DO have a political effect, as they insinuate themselves into what may pass for the 'knowledge base' of the ignorant.

I'd like to see a movie telling the story of someone who used a legally carried gun in lawful self defense, showing how they came to decide to carry, the training they took, how the crime played out, and a REALISTIC treatment of the aftermath of the shooting.

Such a movie might increase support for 'Castle Doctrine' laws and concealed carry in general.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:26 am
by jimlongley
frankie_the_yankee wrote:The irony is that the same people sitting in the audience cheering for the protaganist as they blow the bad guys away (under dubious legal circumstances) are the ones who will vote for anti gun rights politicians who want to take our gun rights away (not to mention the people who MAKE the movies who should and probably do know better).

My guess is that they tend to not be gun owners themselves.
Back on the old CompuServe "outdoors forum" where plenty of anti rights types hung out, there were many who used movie fiction as examples of reasons why guns should be outlawed.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:35 am
by LedJedi
yep, i've seen both of those trailers and I'm not really happy about how they're portraying gun owners in either of them, especially Death Sentence. He has to go to an apparently illegal seedy source for his weapons and has a cash-only no questions asked deal and they set him up with what appears to be some illegal hardware.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:57 am
by HighVelocity
I find these types of movies annoying. And what two people are better suited to annoy than Jodie Foster and Kevin Bacon?

Jodie Foster = Bad News Bears
Kevin Bacon = Footloose.

The End.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:18 am
by RCP
Yeah I noticed that too. In both movies they seem to portray that guns are only purchased illegally off of the street from shady people.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:19 am
by Wildscar
We can always just fall back on the ol line of It just a movie those kindas of things dont happen in real life. As for me Im just going to go see some good ol fashioned sci fi thriller and wiat till AvP:II this December.
:leaving

JUST IN TIME

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:23 am
by shootthesheet
The media is preparing the public for their perceived victory in 2008 when their kind win the presidency and congress. I think movies do play a part in shaping the perceptions of the young and ignorant. They live by emotion and these movies and ramped up news reports play on those emotions. Make no mistake, those on the left hate us. They are waiting until they get the power to move again. They always do this. They do not mention freedom issue they lose on until they can convince enough people of the dangers of those freedoms. Fortunately, we have had a few years with our friends in control where it counts in government. Lose them and we will see the nightmares return. Complacency is a free persons greatest enemy. That is my opinion.

Re: JUST IN TIME

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:30 am
by LedJedi
shootthesheet wrote:The media is preparing the public for their perceived victory in 2008 when their kind win the presidency and congress. I think movies do play a part in shaping the perceptions of the young and ignorant. They live by emotion and these movies and ramped up news reports play on those emotions. Make no mistake, those on the left hate us. They are waiting until they get the power to move again. They always do this. They do not mention freedom issue they lose on until they can convince enough people of the dangers of those freedoms. Fortunately, we have had a few years with our friends in control where it counts in government. Lose them and we will see the nightmares return. Complacency is a free persons greatest enemy. That is my opinion.
+1

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:55 pm
by Penn
LedJedi wrote:yep, i've seen both of those trailers and I'm not really happy about how they're portraying gun owners in either of them, especially Death Sentence. He has to go to an apparently illegal seedy source for his weapons and has a cash-only no questions asked deal and they set him up with what appears to be some illegal hardware.
He's not a gun owner per se. He's a grieving dad who's son was murdered. Would you want to kill the guy who got off with a traceable gun?