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with Lucas. That doesn't stop some places from trying...
I don't believe that this sign is enforceable as the wording is not even in contrasting colors, and it is not specific to the requirments of 30.06 and 30.07. However, I would not challenge it before getting legal advice on the matter. Perhaps there is an organization that can help (make them) follow the requirements set forth in the legislation.
I agree with not "challenging" the sign. I would simply carry, as normal, if I chose to visit such a location. I'm assuming that your use of the word "challenge" here would involve something along the lines of talking to the property owners about whether their sign is valid. That is always a terrible idea. If a sign meets the requirements of 30.06 or 30.07 then it is valid. If it doesn't, then it is precisely the same as there being no sign at all.TexanVeteran wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:15 pmI don't believe that this sign is enforceable as the wording is not even in contrasting colors, and it is not specific to the requirments of 30.06 and 30.07. However, I would not challenge it before getting legal advice on the matter. Perhaps there is an organization that can help (make them) follow the requirements set forth in the legislation.
I thought Security Service Federal Credit Union was the only one trying to get away with that sign. Wonder if some sign company is pushing that.
You gotta love invalid signs. Some of them are very cute, indeed. I saw an interesting sign on a recent trip that said "firearms are not permitted on these premises". I took that to mean exactly what it said, that the firearms present at that location did not have "permits".crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:21 pm I know that the Emergency room entrance for Dallas Children's Hospital is one big combined 06/07 making it very invalid!
What they meant was you couldn't get a permit for a firearm there.Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:30 pmYou gotta love invalid signs. Some of them are very cute, indeed. I saw an interesting sign on a recent trip that said "firearms are not permitted on these premises". I took that to mean exactly what it said, that the firearms present at that location did not have "permits".crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:21 pm I know that the Emergency room entrance for Dallas Children's Hospital is one big combined 06/07 making it very invalid!
Yes, that does make more sense now that I look at the exact wording.crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pmWhat they meant was you couldn't get a permit for a firearm there.Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:30 pmYou gotta love invalid signs. Some of them are very cute, indeed. I saw an interesting sign on a recent trip that said "firearms are not permitted on these premises". I took that to mean exactly what it said, that the firearms present at that location did not have "permits".crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:21 pm I know that the Emergency room entrance for Dallas Children's Hospital is one big combined 06/07 making it very invalid!
The law states what the sign must have, but does not state anything it cannot have. As long as the requirements are met (all wording is exact, block letters at least 1" high, contrasting colors, etc) it is valid, even if they combine the two into one sign - that combined sign is still "a sign posted on the property that: (i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish; (ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and (iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public," even though it also has the other language. In the same way, they can add a title ("firearms prohibited," "concealed carry prohibited," etc), a gunbuster logo, their company logo, etc. As long as it meets the other requirements, it passes.LDB415 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:06 pm Can a single sign be used for both 06 and 07 in a single wording or does each one need it's own individual sign to be valid? IOW, Pursuant to 30.06 & 30.07 etc etc exactly like that, not a really large single sign with Pursuant to 30.06 etc. and below that Pursuant to 30.07 etc..