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Quakecon in Dallas this week
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:39 pm
by ejector
Quakecon is at the Dallas Hilton Anatole this week, I know the hotel is not posted, but the event does have a computer gaming competition with a $100,000 cash prize hand out.. Is this considered a professional sporting event. Basically my question is: carry ok
Tickets are not sold for the event. So I would think not, Dallas Police provides security so worst case - I'll just go up and ask one of the DPD officers.
Also any CHL’s attending - please post if you would like to meet-up.
Re: Quakecon in Dallas this week
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:09 pm
by Velocity
ejector wrote:Quakecon is at the Dallas Hilton Anatole this week, I know the hotel is not posted, but the event does have a computer gaming competition with a $100,000 cash prize hand out.. Is this considered a professional sporting event. Basically my question is: carry ok
Tickets are not sold for the event. So I would think not, Dallas Police provides security so worst case - I'll just go up and ask one of the DPD officers.
Also any CHL’s attending - please post if you would like to meet-up.
I attented the original Quakecon years back, but haven't been able to make it since.
I'd seriously doubt a computer gaming competition would be considered a "professional sporting event" (particularly given it's held in a hotel), but I'm no lawyer...
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:26 am
by TexasJoe
I think there is something against carrying at hotels. You may want to check.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:58 am
by ejector
TexasJoe wrote:I think there is something against carrying at hotels. You may want to check.
Hotels off limits
Respectfully, I think you might be incorrect.. I do not recall hotels being mentioned on my CHL course and I checked the DPS site and there is no mention of concealed carry off limits at hotels.
Not that I want to divert the thread but has anyone else heard about concealed carrry at hotels?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:21 am
by Dan20703
TexasJoe wrote:I think there is something against carrying at hotels. You may want to check.
Never heard this one. I go to many hotels "equipped".
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:46 am
by Crossfire
TexasJoe wrote:I think there is something against carrying at hotels. You may want to check.
Did you sleep through part of your CHL class and dream this while you were snoozing?
There is no prohibition against carrying in a hotel.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:11 am
by HankB
Even with money at stake, I don't see some activites - video game playing, poker & billiards tournaments, spelling bees - as "sporting" events.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:19 am
by CleverNickname
A bunch of sweaty nerds in a dark hotel ballroom is most definately not a sport.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:31 am
by ejector
CleverNickname wrote:A bunch of sweaty nerds in a dark hotel ballroom is most definately not a sport.
perfect answer - thank you!
I guess being a nerd myself I couldn't see the real answer.
Thanks!!!!
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:03 pm
by mdek
ejector,
I'll likely be going to quakecon as well, so PM me with contact info if you want to meet up! Also, do you live in dallas, or are you driving/flying in from elsewhere?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:35 pm
by Kalrog
I have some time this weekend and have a friend that would probably like to go. I don't know if I will make the drive from Austin, but I might. Where is the get together?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:38 pm
by Liberty
llwatson wrote:TexasJoe wrote:I think there is something against carrying at hotels. You may want to check.
Did you sleep through part of your CHL class and dream this while you were snoozing?
There is no prohibition against carrying in a hotel.
I can't think of a more important place for me to carry.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:53 pm
by ejector
CleverNickname wrote:A bunch of sweaty nerds in a dark hotel ballroom is most definately not a sport.
Well I carried, but my spider sense was going nuts, so I went back my car and disarmed then approached one of the Dallas Sheriff officers who are providing security (not DPD this year) and asked if she considered the event a professional sporting event with respect to CHL carry. She then asked me I was trying to bring a weapon in – I said no, and she quickly stated that NO WEAPONS ARE PERMITTED inside the event.
I know I should have stated this, but I am still learning all this and I just have to know.. so I stated that there is no 30.06 posted.. and with very direct look in my eyes “NO WEAPONS PERMITTED�. I got the impression that I needed to stop asking questions and nicely go away. So at any rate I believe the gun buster/no weapons/no 30.06 enigma is up to the individual LEO discretion. (duh!)
Lessons learned for this nerd: When there are thousands of people at an event and LEOs are providing security, best not to carry - or ask CHL questions to the same LEOS providing that security.
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:58 am
by Penn
Since it is private property, it is my impression that they can bar anyone from admission. Once they verbally tell you not to bring in a gun, I think that trumps the 30.06 posting.
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:30 am
by KBCraig
I dislike LEOs working as security for private functions, because it presents a conflict. A LEO giving verbal notice is speaking for the management, while in uniform. So much for "equal protection under the law".
ejector, I take it that you're still somewhat new to carrying, and lack confidence in the law and your rights. That's perfectly understandable, and the confidence will come with experience. Carrying with confidence would mean knowing that a Quakecon is not a sporting event, and since it's a private venue, you're legal to carry there in the absence of a 30.06 notice.
Unfortunately, you received verbal notice because you asked.