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30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:17 pm
by EdnaBambrick
The 30.06 sign reads - "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."
If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:21 pm
by casp625
EdnaBambrick wrote:The 30.06 sign reads - "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."
If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.
Or you could enter with a partially visible handgun - with say part of the grip or muzzle showing.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:32 pm
by loktite
Yes, you *could* enter said establishment open carrying. You'll most likely be told by employee/management ( or police called by aforementioned )that no guns are allowed, and will be required to immediately leave. I believe the majority of us here would suggest that you simply take your business elsewhere.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:13 pm
by ScottDLS
And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:07 pm
by Soccerdad1995
ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.

Don't forget that you may also have to TAKE THE RIDE!!!!!! even if you beat the rap.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:45 pm
by Dreamer42
I have to disagree with the "take a ride" statement. If we are a society of laws, and we agree words mean what they say - these signs posted are Texas law created by our elected officials - and hence mean exactly what is intended and no more, then I see no reason why you can't legally OC. Might they ask you to leave? Of course. But you would certainly be legal OCing and I doubt you'd be harassed by LEO.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:25 pm
by mojo84
ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.

This is ridiculous and old!
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:44 am
by ScottDLS
mojo84 wrote:ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.

This is ridiculous and old!
Yet we see it repeated....(at least the first line) regularly.

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:50 am
by ScottDLS
And to be fair the the original question. YES you can legally OPEN carry into a business with only a 30.06 sign, until the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner informs you orally, or via specific written communication, that you cannot.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:12 am
by KLB
What one can arguably get away with and what is a good idea are seldom the same thing.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:27 pm
by Peaces
Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:32 pm
by rexmitchell
Peaces wrote:Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
So intentionally ignore the sign?
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:33 pm
by mojo84
Peaces wrote:Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
You may want to refresh your understanding of the meaning of the signs.

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:47 pm
by Peaces
Thanks for setting me straight. I thought 30.06 allowed for conceal. I was wrong.
Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:28 pm
by Soccerdad1995
KLB wrote:What one can arguably get away with and what is a good idea are seldom the same thing.
You should not try to carry concealed because that would be wrong, even if you could get away with it.
Just make sure that a part of your gun is not concealed when you carry past this sign.