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Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:56 pm
by tbryanh
When I am at work, I store my pistol in a lockbox inside my car. Can I leave the pistol loaded while its stored in the lockbox?

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:59 pm
by Soccerdad1995
tbryanh wrote:When I am at work, I store my pistol in a lockbox inside my car. Can I leave the pistol loaded while its stored in the lockbox?
Yes.

This assumes that you can legally possess a gun in the first place. The law does not distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns for this purpose.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:17 pm
by casp625
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
tbryanh wrote:When I am at work, I store my pistol in a lockbox inside my car. Can I leave the pistol loaded while its stored in the lockbox?
Yes.

This assumes that you can legally possess a gun in the first place. The law does not distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns for this purpose.
And as long as it's not one of the exceptions to the parking lot bill, like a school district.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:24 pm
by ScottDLS
casp625 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
tbryanh wrote:When I am at work, I store my pistol in a lockbox inside my car. Can I leave the pistol loaded while its stored in the lockbox?
Yes.

This assumes that you can legally possess a gun in the first place. The law does not distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns for this purpose.
And as long as it's not one of the exceptions to the parking lot bill, like a school district.
It's "legal" to leave in your car on a school campus, but if you work there it could be against the rules and get you fired.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:50 am
by locke_n_load
ScottDLS wrote:
casp625 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
tbryanh wrote:When I am at work, I store my pistol in a lockbox inside my car. Can I leave the pistol loaded while its stored in the lockbox?
Yes.

This assumes that you can legally possess a gun in the first place. The law does not distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns for this purpose.
And as long as it's not one of the exceptions to the parking lot bill, like a school district.
It's "legal" to leave in your car on a school campus, but if you work there it could be against the rules and get you fired.
If you have an LTC. If you do not, and are carrying in your vehicle under the MPA, you would be violating the GFSZA.

Had to throw that out there for Scott!

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:21 am
by Agoraphobic Penguin
Just be mindful of the fact that your car can be broken into. Whenever I have to disarm myself, I leave the gun in a lockbox with cable attached to my car seat frame and hidde from view. I also take the mags and clear the chambers so if stolen it won't be able to be fired immediately. I also think that while showing support for the NRA and 2nd ammendment rights with stickers is great, it is also a sign for criminals to break into your car looking for guns. Please help keep guns out of criminal hands, and don't forget to record te serial numbers of your guns in case of theft.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:39 am
by ScottDLS
locke_n_load wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
casp625 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
tbryanh wrote:When I am at work, I store my pistol in a lockbox inside my car. Can I leave the pistol loaded while its stored in the lockbox?
Yes.

This assumes that you can legally possess a gun in the first place. The law does not distinguish between loaded and unloaded guns for this purpose.
And as long as it's not one of the exceptions to the parking lot bill, like a school district.
It's "legal" to leave in your car on a school campus, but if you work there it could be against the rules and get you fired.
If you have an LTC. If you do not, and are carrying in your vehicle under the MPA, you would be violating the GFSZA.

Had to throw that out there for Scott!

:iagree: "rlol" "rlol" "rlol"

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:42 am
by thetexan
Yes, with one in the chamber.

tex

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:43 am
by allisji
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote:Just be mindful of the fact that your car can be broken into. Whenever I have to disarm myself, I leave the gun in a lockbox with cable attached to my car seat frame and hidde from view. I also take the mags and clear the chambers so if stolen it won't be able to be fired immediately. I also think that while showing support for the NRA and 2nd ammendment rights with stickers is great, it is also a sign for criminals to break into your car looking for guns. Please help keep guns out of criminal hands, and don't forget to record te serial numbers of your guns in case of theft.

Just curious, when you leave your gun in the car in this condition, do you take the magazines and ammo with you? Or do you hide/stash it in a different location in the car? What if you are going into a place where guns are forbidden or with metal detectors?

I also leave my gun in a locked box, cabled to the underside of the seat, and hidden from view. But mine remains loaded and loaded magazines inserted. I do tend to agree about the NRA/Pro-2A stickers. I have considered adding an NRA sticker to my car, but for this reason I likely never will.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:47 am
by tbryanh
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote:Whenever I have to disarm myself, I leave the gun in a lockbox with cable attached to my car seat frame and hidde from view. I also take the mags and clear the chambers so if stolen it won't be able to be fired immediately.
I understand the value of unloading when disarming, but weighed against the increased possibility of an accidental discharge, leaving the gun loaded wins out for me.

I am also one of those who is against press checking to see if your weapon is loaded.

I believe the safest way to handle a semi auto pistol is to load it and leave it alone.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:20 pm
by Ryan
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote: I also think that while showing support for the NRA and 2nd amendment rights with stickers is great, it is also a sign for criminals to break into your car looking for guns.
I've always put my NRA stickers on cars that belong to people I know are Anti-2a. I thought that's what they're for, isn't it? ;-)




I'm only kidding, I'm not into vandalising others property... but that's what I've always wanted to do with them!

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:59 pm
by Agoraphobic Penguin
allisji wrote:
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote:Just be mindful of the fact that your car can be broken into. Whenever I have to disarm myself, I leave the gun in a lockbox with cable attached to my car seat frame and hidde from view. I also take the mags and clear the chambers so if stolen it won't be able to be fired immediately. I also think that while showing support for the NRA and 2nd ammendment rights with stickers is great, it is also a sign for criminals to break into your car looking for guns. Please help keep guns out of criminal hands, and don't forget to record te serial numbers of your guns in case of theft.

Just curious, when you leave your gun in the car in this condition, do you take the magazines and ammo with you? Or do you hide/stash it in a different location in the car? What if you are going into a place where guns are forbidden or with metal detectors?

I also leave my gun in a locked box, cabled to the underside of the seat, and hidden from view. But mine remains loaded and loaded magazines inserted. I do tend to agree about the NRA/Pro-2A stickers. I have considered adding an NRA sticker to my car, but for this reason I likely never will.
I do take the ammo with me into the places where I am not allowedto carry, I have only encountered metal detectors once at the Travis County District Clerk Office/courthouse and ended up leaving my mags in my glovebox locked. I agree that your ccw should not be handled regularly but I still follow the safety rules when I unload my guns. I aim down at my brake pedal and keep my finger off the trigger. Both the guns I carry now do not have a magazine disconnect safety, if they did I would leave a round chambered and keep my weapons holstered, trigger guards covered ad just remove mags. I understand not wanting a ND, cause I really don't want to have one and I realize I'm human and humans make mistakes but I am constantly drilling the safety rules into my head. I just would feel horrible to find that a criminal used my gun on another person. I also drive a stick to further deter criminals, ad because I like driving stick, a lot.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:09 pm
by Agoraphobic Penguin
tbryanh wrote:
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote:Whenever I have to disarm myself, I leave the gun in a lockbox with cable attached to my car seat frame and hidde from view. I also take the mags and clear the chambers so if stolen it won't be able to be fired immediately.
I understand the value of unloading when disarming, but weighed against the increased possibility of an accidental discharge, leaving the gun loaded wins out for me.

I am also one of those who is against press checking to see if your weapon is loaded.

I believe the safest way to handle a semi auto pistol is to load it and leave it alone.

I completely understand because I have seen some unsafe and irresponsible handling of firearms, followed by me screaming at them while crying like a little girl. I typically leave the area if I think tey are a lost cause or attempt to reinforce the safety rules. I usually press check my little mouse gun every morning before I stik it in my pocket, where it now stays until I go to bed at night (just got my LTC!!), I guess its just habit now. I agree that people should stop fiddling with their guns, that and "unloaded" guns are probably the leading causes of NDs.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:29 pm
by allisji
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote:
allisji wrote:
Agoraphobic Penguin wrote:Just be mindful of the fact that your car can be broken into. Whenever I have to disarm myself, I leave the gun in a lockbox with cable attached to my car seat frame and hidde from view. I also take the mags and clear the chambers so if stolen it won't be able to be fired immediately. I also think that while showing support for the NRA and 2nd ammendment rights with stickers is great, it is also a sign for criminals to break into your car looking for guns. Please help keep guns out of criminal hands, and don't forget to record te serial numbers of your guns in case of theft.

Just curious, when you leave your gun in the car in this condition, do you take the magazines and ammo with you? Or do you hide/stash it in a different location in the car? What if you are going into a place where guns are forbidden or with metal detectors?

I also leave my gun in a locked box, cabled to the underside of the seat, and hidden from view. But mine remains loaded and loaded magazines inserted. I do tend to agree about the NRA/Pro-2A stickers. I have considered adding an NRA sticker to my car, but for this reason I likely never will.
I do take the ammo with me into the places where I am not allowedto carry, I have only encountered metal detectors once at the Travis County District Clerk Office/courthouse and ended up leaving my mags in my glovebox locked. I agree that your ccw should not be handled regularly but I still follow the safety rules when I unload my guns. I aim down at my brake pedal and keep my finger off the trigger. Both the guns I carry now do not have a magazine disconnect safety, if they did I would leave a round chambered and keep my weapons holstered, trigger guards covered ad just remove mags. I understand not wanting a ND, cause I really don't want to have one and I realize I'm human and humans make mistakes but I am constantly drilling the safety rules into my head. I just would feel horrible to find that a criminal used my gun on another person. I also drive a stick to further deter criminals, ad because I like driving stick, a lot.
Good answer. I've never had a car broken into, but I do worry about it sometimes when I park my car in Houston. My lock box is not impenetrable. A smash and grab robber with bolt cutters could easily cut the cable and be off with my gun. It would take a bit more effort for him to break the lock or pry open the box enough to get the gun out. Usually I don't leave my gun in car unless I'm at work, as I don't see many 30.06 postings where I normally do business. Car break-ins at my work parking lot are very rare. I work at a chemical plant with 24hr security and ample and fairly conspicuous security cameras and lighting on the parking lot.

Re: Storing Loaded Pistol in Car?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:10 pm
by JerryK
I also think that while showing support for the NRA and 2nd ammendment rights with stickers is great, it is also a sign for criminals to break into your car looking for guns.
This is a very good theory but I have a NRA sticker on my vehicle and Knock on wood it has never been broken into. But If I go by the theory my vehicle should be broken into on a daily basis.

There is more than one way to look at a situation! The way I look at it is with this sticker the thief is going to think twice about breaking into my vehicle because he has no idea when I walk up behind him, and I am going to be carrying and take care of the situation right then and there.

Ain't scared, have sticker!