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Central Texas Airshow 2016

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:26 pm
by OleWarSkuleAlum
On the website it says no weapons are allowed...

http://www.centraltexasairshow.com

Now I know that isn't effective notice. But let's say I do show up and they have a 30.06 sign at the entrance. Would this be legal? From what I understand the Draughon-Miller Central Texas Regional Airport is owned and operated by the city of Temple, TX...

http://m.draughonmiller.com

Is there something I'm missing? Would this be considered a professional sporting event? Definitely not beyond the secured area of the airport? Has anyone ever gone with a CHL?

Re: Central Texas Airshow 2016

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:19 pm
by JP171
it is my understanding that unless you are a pilot in the show or coming in by plane for the show it is considered part of the secured area of the airport if you are on the tarmac, least ways that what the FAA explained to us when we do perimeter and point security at ellington here in houston

Re: Central Texas Airshow 2016

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:52 pm
by casp625
Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
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(5) in or into a secured area of an airport;
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(2) "Secured area" means an area of an airport terminal building to which access is controlled by the inspection of persons and property under federal law.
So, does this mean as long as you don't enter any building, it's not off-limits per 46.03? Or is the airfield itself considered federal property and off-limits because it's federal?

Re: Central Texas Airshow 2016

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:01 am
by JP171
I think because the FAA requires a badge to normally enter the AOA it falls under the secure portion restrictions, at least that's the way it was explained when I was doing the Airshow at Ellington as well as certain area's being completely off limits to non military civilians including LEO's

Re: Central Texas Airshow 2016

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:26 pm
by OleWarSkuleAlum
casp625 wrote:
Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
...
(5) in or into a secured area of an airport;
...
(2) "Secured area" means an area of an airport terminal building to which access is controlled by the inspection of persons and property under federal law.
So, does this mean as long as you don't enter any building, it's not off-limits per 46.03? Or is the airfield itself considered federal property and off-limits because it's federal?

Yeah see that's my question. I wouldn't be entering the terminal building or the secured portion thereof. Secondly although I have never been to this particular airport the majority of General Aviation airport have an FBO in a building with zero TSA type security people and that is how you access the ramp. Any clarification on this?

Re: Central Texas Airshow 2016

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:49 pm
by cb1000rider
I've been to this airport several times for general aviation. It's walk-in / walk-out with no secure area for general aviation.
Unless this is taking place on some commercial side that I'm unaware of, you've got it right..