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Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:23 am
by oljames3
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:35 am
by RPBrown
I would think that they need to get the law straight before posting a video.
(1) Hospitals are not off limits unless posted
(2) School buildings are off limits
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:50 am
by WesTx
I have been seeing a lot of news outlets posting articles about the upcoming OC going into affect and getting stuff backwards or just plain wrong. I don't know why it bugs me so much but I just remember I know what the law says soo... I hope their misinformation doesn't cause more calls to local PD's because people see in the news that you supposedly couldn't carry somewhere and it was false.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:53 am
by TVGuy
RPBrown wrote:I would think that they need to get the law straight before posting a video.
(1) Hospitals are not off limits unless posted
(2) School buildings are off limits
Right after that he says, "when posted that carry in those places is prohibited".
I'll admit that his timing and delivery make it a bit unclear though.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:56 am
by Oldgringo
RPBrown wrote:I would think that they need to get the law straight before posting a video.
(1) Hospitals are not off limits unless posted
(2) School buildings are off limits
I watched it twice and thought it was a well presented infomercial for the general public. It, was not a quiz to test the knowledge of CHL wannabee lawyers. It has been stated herein that most hospitals are posted (although mine's not) and the subject of carry on school grounds is so convoluted, I ain't gonna' go there - with or without. BTW, the comments to the presentation were interesting to say the least.
Just my 2ยข worth....ymmv
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:37 am
by AF-Odin
Didn't watch the video, but read the article in this morning's Killeen Daily Herald. It quotes Chief of Police as stating that a "Drop Leg Holster" does not meet the requirements for a belt holster. Only time I have personally worn one was on active duty to get my holster accessible below my body armor, BUT it WAS attached to the belt. Think there is going to be a huge learning curve on both sides and some interestting interpretations by diferent LE agencies
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Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:44 am
by LSUTiger
AF-Odin wrote:Didn't watch the video, but read the article in this morning's Killeen Daily Herald. It quotes Chief of Police as stating that a "Drop Leg Holster" does not meet the requirements for a belt holster. Only time I have personally worn one was on active duty to get my holster accessible below my body armor, BUT it WAS attached to the belt. Think there is going to be a huge learning curve on both sides and some interestting interpretations by diferent LE agencies
![confused5 :confused5](./images/smilies/confused5.gif)
Further proof that all the discussions about holsters were maybe warranted after all.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:49 am
by mojo84
He's the first chief or authority figure I've seen say this about drop leg holsters.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:57 am
by cb1000rider
Gonna be lots of things to sort out in court...
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:02 pm
by LSUTiger
cb1000rider wrote:Gonna be lots of things to sort out in court...
I agree. Sadly I think some in LE who are against OC will exploit the law when it is not explicit or is vague to intimidate OCers from OCing.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:20 pm
by oljames3
LSUTiger wrote:cb1000rider wrote:Gonna be lots of things to sort out in court...
I agree. Sadly I think some in LE who are against OC will exploit the law when it is not explicit or is vague to intimidate OCers from OCing.
The reports I have read of LEO attitudes and the interaction I have had with my city's PD are more encouraging to me than discouraging.
Let's see what happens in 1 day, 12 hours, 40 minutes and counting.
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/ev ... 19c43f2239
I'll be out before dawn in Elgin, Texas.
![Texas Flag :txflag:](./images/smilies/texasflag.gif)
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:41 pm
by LSUTiger
oljames3 wrote:LSUTiger wrote:cb1000rider wrote:Gonna be lots of things to sort out in court...
I agree. Sadly I think some in LE who are against OC will exploit the law when it is not explicit or is vague to intimidate OCers from OCing.
The reports I have read of LEO attitudes and the interaction I have had with my city's PD are more encouraging to me than discouraging.
Let's see what happens in 1 day, 12 hours, 40 minutes and counting.
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/ev ... 19c43f2239
I'll be out before dawn in Elgin, Texas.
![Texas Flag :txflag:](./images/smilies/texasflag.gif)
My only real concern at this point is that I ordered my OC holster too late and it's not in yet. I will have to go with plan B, but I will OC on Jan. 1, exposed IWB.
(I wasn't gonna get a gun just for OC and use what I already have but my ability to justify any gun purchases got the better of me at the last minute. Anyway, it was a nice my Christmas present to myself.
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Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:30 pm
by fire128
It's a known fact that Chief Baldwin is not a fan of open carry, nor is he a fan of concealed carry.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:39 pm
by DEB
fire128 wrote:It's a known fact that Chief Baldwin is not a fan of open carry, nor is he a fan of concealed carry.
![I Agree :iagree:](./images/smilies/iagree.gif)
Also, Killeen, Copperas Cove, Temple and the Fort Hood leadership are especially not fans of Soldiers having ready access to firearms, without them being under orders, especially theirs. They all tend to work together to keep this under wrap.
Re: Killeen PD Posts Open Carry Video on Facebook
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:19 pm
by tomtexan
DEB wrote:
![I Agree :iagree:](./images/smilies/iagree.gif)
Also, Killeen, Copperas Cove, Temple and the Fort Hood leadership are especially not fans of Soldiers having ready access to firearms, without them being under orders, especially theirs. They all tend to work together to keep this under wrap.
Power trip?