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Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:07 pm
by sjfcontrol
I've heard on WBAP twice today, that "this year guns are not allowed at the fair".

Anybody else heard this from any other source?

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:10 pm
by Taypo
sjfcontrol wrote:I've heard on WBAP twice today, that "this year guns are not allowed at the fair".

Anybody else heard this from any other source?
First I'm hearing of it. They've always allowed CHL holders in the past with no issues. We'll be there opening weekend, so I'll be sure to let you know if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:22 pm
by thetexan
The state fair website still states, under FAQS, that they are permitted with a valid CHL.

tex

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:25 pm
by sjfcontrol
thetexan wrote:The state fair website still states, under FAQS, that they are permitted with a valid CHL.

tex
I saw that. It's possible WBAP was referring to non-licensed carry. Or the FAQ could be outdated.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:27 pm
by jrene
Their website says otherwise:

Weapons and sharp metal objects, such as pocket knives, scissors and the like, are not allowed. The State of Texas does allow a person holding a valid concealed handgun license to enter into Fair Park with a concealed handgun. However, during the State Fair of Texas and some other special events, licenses will be examined at the entrance by an authorized security supervisor. In accordance with Texas laws that protect "premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place," handguns are never permitted inside the Cotton Bowl.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:34 pm
by thetexan
Just called and confirmed with park police (Dallas Police) that chl carry is permitted.

tex

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:15 pm
by Taypo
thetexan wrote:Just called and confirmed with park police (Dallas Police) that chl carry is permitted.

tex
Nicely done.

Just read an article on Fox4 talking about banned items this year, they also mentioned weapons.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:06 pm
by jimlongley
jrene wrote:Their website says otherwise:

Weapons and sharp metal objects, such as pocket knives, scissors and the like, are not allowed. The State of Texas does allow a person holding a valid concealed handgun license to enter into Fair Park with a concealed handgun. However, during the State Fair of Texas and some other special events, licenses will be examined at the entrance by an authorized security supervisor. In accordance with Texas laws that protect "premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place," handguns are never permitted inside the Cotton Bowl.
I always get a kick out of that statement. The law says "event is taking place" not "where a . . . event has or will take place," it is a current event, not a past or future event, leading to "never permitted" being somewhat moronic.

But I guess no one has ever challenged it.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:35 pm
by sjfcontrol
jimlongley wrote:
jrene wrote:Their website says otherwise:

Weapons and sharp metal objects, such as pocket knives, scissors and the like, are not allowed. The State of Texas does allow a person holding a valid concealed handgun license to enter into Fair Park with a concealed handgun. However, during the State Fair of Texas and some other special events, licenses will be examined at the entrance by an authorized security supervisor. In accordance with Texas laws that protect "premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place," handguns are never permitted inside the Cotton Bowl.
I always get a kick out of that statement. The law says "event is taking place" not "where a . . . event has or will take place," it is a current event, not a past or future event, leading to "never permitted" being somewhat moronic.

But I guess no one has ever challenged it.
It Is my understanding (and I could be wrong) that the stadium is not open to the public unless there is an event taking place.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:19 pm
by jimlongley
sjfcontrol wrote:
jimlongley wrote:
jrene wrote:Their website says otherwise:

Weapons and sharp metal objects, such as pocket knives, scissors and the like, are not allowed. The State of Texas does allow a person holding a valid concealed handgun license to enter into Fair Park with a concealed handgun. However, during the State Fair of Texas and some other special events, licenses will be examined at the entrance by an authorized security supervisor. In accordance with Texas laws that protect "premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place," handguns are never permitted inside the Cotton Bowl.
I always get a kick out of that statement. The law says "event is taking place" not "where a . . . event has or will take place," it is a current event, not a past or future event, leading to "never permitted" being somewhat moronic.

But I guess no one has ever challenged it.
It Is my understanding (and I could be wrong) that the stadium is not open to the public unless there is an event taking place.
While that may be true, it does not render the statement any less wrong.

And they have, in the past, offered tours, which would not fit in the definition of "a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place,"

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:39 pm
by John Galt
I carried into the State Fair today. At the gate entrance, I told the guy with the wand that I needed to see a police officer. He asked why and I said CHL. He said that he was the one and asked for my CHL and drivers licenses. He then told me to proceed to the police officer in the elevated stand to which I showed my licenses. The officer said have a nice day.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:04 pm
by Richbirdhunter
John Galt wrote:I carried into the State Fair today. At the gate entrance, I told the guy with the wand that I needed to see a police officer. He asked why and I said CHL. He said that he was the one and asked for my CHL and drivers licenses. He then told me to proceed to the police officer in the elevated stand to which I showed my licenses. The officer said have a nice day.

That's how it worked for me last year with my Utah ccw, now this year with my Texas Chl I expect the same thing

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:20 pm
by ajwakeboarder
Last year I got wanded before I could even mention my CHL. the want went off over my gun and she still just waved me through. I tried to talk to the officer manning the gate, but they weren't at their stand. So I just continued about my business.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:21 pm
by jimlongley
John Galt wrote:I carried into the State Fair today. At the gate entrance, I told the guy with the wand that I needed to see a police officer. He asked why and I said CHL. He said that he was the one and asked for my CHL and drivers licenses. He then told me to proceed to the police officer in the elevated stand to which I showed my licenses. The officer said have a nice day.
I might have asked him to prove he was a police officer.

Re: Texas State Fair

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:25 pm
by C-dub
John Galt wrote:I carried into the State Fair today. At the gate entrance, I told the guy with the wand that I needed to see a police officer. He asked why and I said CHL. He said that he was the one and asked for my CHL and drivers licenses. He then told me to proceed to the police officer in the elevated stand to which I showed my licenses. The officer said have a nice day.
Do you mean the guy with the wand asked to see you DL and CHL? I would only show those to the LEO under these circumstances, but that's me. I don't think the folks wanding people at the State Fair need to see those or have a reason to see them.

One of these times I just might try not saying anything before being wanded just to see if they would catch it or not. Hey, I have one of those ceramic Glocks that can't be detected. :biggrinjester: