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Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:58 pm
by txfire06
Hey guys, I have an Arizona Non-resident CWP, and am wondering if the bypass on call to FBI is the same as Texas CHLs. Thanks in advance.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:43 am
by Jumping Frog
Nope.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:16 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Jumping Frog wrote:Nope.
What he said.......
......and this, by the way, is just one reason why a resident CHL is preferable to a non-resident license from some other state.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:23 pm
by joe817
Welcome to the forum txfire06! Glad to have you with us!
As you can see, there are many knowledgeable people here on the forum, and a wealth of information to be had.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:45 pm
by txfire06
Thank y'all for the information! I have only been place on hold once, but it was some time ago. I am planning on getting my Texas Chl after all the new laws pass, but thanks again guys.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:44 pm
by OldCannon
ATF only allows in-state CHL, no out-of-state CHL, even if it's permissible to bypass the NICS check.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:06 am
by The Annoyed Man
txfire06 wrote:Thank y'all for the information! I have only been place on hold once, but it was some time ago. I am planning on getting my Texas Chl after all the new laws pass, but thanks again guys.
Why wait? The laws are going to pass, but even if they didn't, your AZ permit still leaves you with fewer options and slightly more liability (GFSZ) than a CHL. Getting your CHL now would improve your position today, and improve it again when the laws you're waiting for pass. Seems like a no-brained to me.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:12 am
by TVGuy
The Annoyed Man wrote:txfire06 wrote:Thank y'all for the information! I have only been place on hold once, but it was some time ago. I am planning on getting my Texas Chl after all the new laws pass, but thanks again guys.
Why wait? The laws are going to pass, but even if they didn't, your AZ permit still leaves you with fewer options and slightly more liability (GFSZ) than a CHL. Getting your CHL now would improve your position today, and improve it again when the laws you're waiting for pass. Seems like a no-brained to me.
I'm glad you asked, I was wondering the same thing. What law is going to pass that would give you additional reason to have a TX situation later Vs. now?
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:54 am
by txfire06
I just rather wait, I travel to Ohio on a regular, and Texas chl is a no go. I guess the main reason to wait is I dont feel the Texas chl is worth the money, I have a Fl cwp, and Az. both of those together cost less than a Tx chl. Don't get me wrong I plan on getting a Tx Chl. Just want to wait. What liability in gun free zones? I didn't follow that part.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:29 am
by txfire06
Ok, just read the Gun Free School Zone Act 1990... looks like I will be paying for that overpriced piece of plastic. It looks to me that the only time that law has been enforced was in cases where the people weren't just normal law abiding citizens driving through a school zone. But not worth the risk.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:13 am
by OldCannon
txfire06 wrote:I just rather wait, I travel to Ohio on a regular, and Texas chl is a no go.
This is no longer true.
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I also can't speak for all law enforcement here, but I can definitely tell you my daughter (LEO in Arlington) and all of her friends agree: they very much prefer dealing with somebody that has a TX CHL, rather than an out of state one, even for routine traffic stops.
Re: Buying a firearm with a Non resident CWP
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:50 am
by The Annoyed Man
txfire06 wrote:Ok, just read the Gun Free School Zone Act 1990... looks like I will be paying for that overpriced piece of plastic. It looks to me that the only time that law has been enforced was in cases where the people weren't just normal law abiding citizens driving through a school zone. But not worth the risk.
Exactly....... and it doesn't have to be that you're "not a normal law abiding citizen" either. When I first moved to Texas, I was shocked to see that most school zones were limited to 20mph during hours of activity, when I had been used to 25 mph zones all of my life until then. A week after we got here (I was one of 5 guys who relocated a business from southern California to Texas), one of my coworkers was a little bit late to work because he got stopped and ticketed for doing 22 mph in a 20 mph school zone. I've never forgotten that lesson. Doing 22 in a 20 zone is so easy to do without meaning to that it probably happens to most of us with some degree of frequency.
And THAT is enough to get you stopped, and then asked if there are any weapons in your car, and if so, where, and then asked for your (nonexistent)
TEXAS CHL.
I agree that it is overpriced compared to other states, but it costs a daggum sight less than a lawyer or a trial or a fine or jail. Maybe -
probably - it shouldn't be that way, but the reality is that it IS that way. So to put a twist on an old saying, "You
don't pays your dues, and you takes your chances"......