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Quick application question

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:20 am
by Carzan
Applying for my 21 year old son. He has never been arrested but does have a Minor in Possession of alcohol. The criminal history question reads have you ever been arrested or charged with a crime.

He was merely issued a ticket for the MIP.

How does that need to be answered in this case?

Re: Quick application question

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:44 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Unless their policy has changed, DPS considers an arrest to have been made when one is photographed and fingerprinted.

Chas.

Re: Quick application question

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:14 pm
by Carzan
No photo or prints taken. Only a ticket was issued! $300 fine and alcohol awareness class required.

so how should the question be answered?

Re: Quick application question

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:35 am
by bulinm
" Applying for my 21 year old son " ?

Re: Quick application question

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:06 am
by mmtex63
My thoughts are , you don't offer info if not needed.

Re: Quick application question

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:39 pm
by Carzan
bulinm wrote:" Applying for my 21 year old son " ?
Yes. Helping my son fill out his application on-line.


So it would seem my question still stands. Why does the application state have you ever been "charged with a crime?" Technically aren't you "charged with a crime" when you are issued a speeding ticket? or a parking ticket? I don't remember it being phrased that way when me and my wife applied for our CHL.

We have already completed his application and submitted his chl-100 form. I am just really curious about why the state would be this ambiguous on this question. I went by what I have always understood which is they are looking for any arrest. (of which there wasn't any BTW)

Re: Quick application question

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:34 pm
by Crossfire
Carzan - I understand the confusion. If DPS worded the question, "have you ever been photographed and fingerprinted for a criminal offense?" that might be more accurate, but it could be even more confusing.

So, "have you ever been charged with a crime?" is how it is written on the application, but instructors have always been told that applicants only need to disclose incidents for which you were photographed and fingerprinted.