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Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:53 am
by tkcott
I was recently pulled over in Pasadena for running a red light, showed my TDL got my ticket and went on my way. This is the first time I've been pulled over in 10 years and never thought about producing my CHL. The officer never asked.
Yesterday the weekly Friendswood Police activity report tip of the week says I must ALWAYS show both.
Do I have to show if I'm not asked??
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:57 am
by gigag04
If asked for ID you MUST present CHL if carrying. Even when not armed, it is a commonly accepted "best practice" to do so.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:57 am
by Cshuff21
yes!
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:00 am
by Beiruty
gigag04 wrote:If asked for ID you MUST present CHL if carrying. Even when not armed, it is a commonly accepted "best practice" to do so.
Do what this gentleman sayth.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:20 am
by Keith B
If carrying you must show your CHL when asked for ID. As stated, it is a good idea to show it no matter.
GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Now, had you gotten in trouble with the officer for not showing your CHL, there is no longer a penalty if you fail to show it. However, it is still the law that you must produce it.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:26 am
by Oldgringo
Keith B wrote:If carrying you must show your CHL when asked for ID. As stated, it is a good idea to show it no matter.
GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Now, had you gotten in trouble with the officer for not showing your CHL, there is no longer a penalty if you fail to show it. However, it is still the law that you must produce it.
That clears that up for me as well, thanks.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:55 am
by tkcott
Oldgringo wrote:Keith B wrote:If carrying you must show your CHL when asked for ID. As stated, it is a good idea to show it no matter.
GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Now, had you gotten in trouble with the officer for not showing your CHL, there is no longer a penalty if you fail to show it. However, it is still the law that you must produce it.
That clears that up for me as well, thanks.
For some reason I knew something had changed but couldn't remember it was the penalty part. Sure glad it didn't become an issue during my red light violation because I was carrying. Thanks for clearing things up.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:01 pm
by clarionite
Keith B wrote:If carrying you must show your CHL when asked for ID. As stated, it is a good idea to show it no matter.
GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Now, had you gotten in trouble with the officer for not showing your CHL, there is no longer a penalty if you fail to show it. However, it is still the law that you must produce it.
The way I explain it to my students is that the penalty of suspension was removed from the books, but the penalty of dealing with a ticked off officer on the stop will always remain. If the officer believes you intentionally withheld the license as opposed to forgetting, things might start going south from that point on.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:03 pm
by PBratton
clarionite wrote:Keith B wrote:If carrying you must show your CHL when asked for ID. As stated, it is a good idea to show it no matter.
GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Now, had you gotten in trouble with the officer for not showing your CHL, there is no longer a penalty if you fail to show it. However, it is still the law that you must produce it.
The way I explain it to my students is that the penalty of suspension was removed from the books, but the penalty of dealing with a ticked off officer on the stop will always remain. If the officer believes you intentionally withheld the license as opposed to forgetting, things might start going south from that point on.
Yeah, not matter what, you always have to remember the POP charge. (irritating the Police)
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:07 pm
by clarionite
PBratton wrote:
Yeah, not matter what, you always have to remember the POP charge. (irritating the Police)
There are times that I'll stand on principle, even if it does tick the officer off. I'll be polite and professional and hope he/she does the same.
But in this case, I can't see any harm in presenting both.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:51 pm
by gigag04
Somehow this thread will make it to 3 pages.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:03 pm
by WildBill
gigag04 wrote:Somehow this thread will make it to 3 pages.
I don't understand how such a simple question could result in a 3 page thread.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:08 pm
by Teamless
WildBill wrote:
I don't understand how such a simple question could result in a 3 page thread.
I don't know how it could get to 3 pages either.
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:10 pm
by anygunanywhere
I got nothin'.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Do i have to show LEO my CHL during a traffic stop
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:29 pm
by WildBill
Teamless wrote:WildBill wrote:
I don't understand how such a simple question could result in a 3 page thread.
I don't know how it could get to 3 pages either.
This thread has a similar discussion, but it didn't get to three pages.
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