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From YOUR cold dead hands

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This is what we are facing from the tyrannical left everyday. Now, it's getting real. :mad5

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Good discussion here: http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php? ... Lt-Colonel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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insert picture of Gonzales Flag here..... :thumbs2:
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I see a "blanket party" in this mans future.
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And people wonder why more and more people are jumping on the Texas secessionist bandwagon.
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Grillmark55 wrote:And people wonder why more and more people are jumping on the Texas secessionist bandwagon.
:txflag:
:iagree: :txflag:
"Our houses are protected by the Good Lord and a gun, you might em both if you show up here not welcome son" Josh Thompson- Way out here (best song ever) "eventually all citizens will become criminals with enough legislation....."
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His "platform" is just an extremist rant, and the best defense against any extremist rant is education. Notice he does not propose direct confiscation by force. It is the next generation's responsibility to hand the gun's over once the gun lover has perished.
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RoyGBiv wrote:Good discussion here: http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php? ... Lt-Colonel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From that discussion, page 2:
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What is the guy's bio? I rooted around on Esquire's website, but could not find it. Can you provide a link, when you have an opportunity?

Thanks very much.
Preliminary feedback is that his commission is actually with the New York State Guard (nb. not the NY _National_ Guard), an organization that has the same relationship to the actual military that the Sheriff's Reelection Posse has to actual law enforcement.
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I'm not sure what to make of this one and here is why. There are TWO men with that name who have been connected with this thing.

One is this guy http://smallwarsjournal.com/author/robert-bateman

The other is this guy http://www.admallc.com/About_Us.html

I'm still not sure which one of these two wrote that article. I'd like to know the truth, and then get to the bottom of this mess. However, if the guy really is an active-duty LTC in the US Army, it would be wrong that he is able to use his official position to give legitimacy for this thing. That was a big no-go in the USAF, we received instruction regarding that, and I'd imagine that the Army does the same thing. I did see the little "disclaimer" at the bottom of the article, but it wouldn't seem to clear him of attempting to use his position to unduly influence folks' decisions about the article, IMHO.
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K.Mooneyham wrote:I'm not sure what to make of this one and here is why. There are TWO men with that name who have been connected with this thing.

One is this guy http://smallwarsjournal.com/author/robert-bateman

The other is this guy http://www.admallc.com/About_Us.html

I'm still not sure which one of these two wrote that article. I'd like to know the truth, and then get to the bottom of this mess. However, if the guy really is an active-duty LTC in the US Army, it would be wrong that he is able to use his official position to give legitimacy for this thing. That was a big no-go in the USAF, we received instruction regarding that, and I'd imagine that the Army does the same thing. I did see the little "disclaimer" at the bottom of the article, but it wouldn't seem to clear him of attempting to use his position to unduly influence folks' decisions about the article, IMHO.
From what I've really, I believe it is the doofus in your second link.
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Found some new information about the anti who wrote that inflammatory gun control screed. It was NOT the older gentleman affiliated with the NY State Guard.

The actual author is an active-duty LTC in the US Army. His Facebook page can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/robert.bateman.374/about

The article clarifying who was responsible for that article can be found here: http://bearingarms.com/attacking-the-wr ... t-bateman/

It bothers me that this guy can write this stuff and get away with it, in that he uses his current military position to give legitimacy to his opinion on gun control. This guy is in a position to influence a lot of young folks that he outranks. I truly worry for this nation with folks like this wearing the uniform.
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For a scathing rant on this guy, you should read Micheal Z Williamson's blog at "The Sacred Cow Slaughterhouse" (which is a blog I regularly enjoy).

It is called LTC Bob Bateman: Less Manly Than a Little Girl. Warning, there is the occasional "salty language" one might expect from a military man that isn't 10 year-old appropriate.

And it is very scathing.

One of the cleaner excerpts:
He also is vague on his credentials but demands them from others. How cute.

And if "Bob" is good enough, why did he use his irrelevant title (likely in violation of the UCMJ) to promote his credibility? Why claim the Infantry status he admits isn't relevant, then switch to being a strategist? And what would being a strategist matter to the criminal use of small arms?

To clarify:

He's an FA59, which isn't really managing violence. From a 2007 Military Review article:

FA 59 officers execute key institutional and operational core processes, including formulation and implementation of strategy and strategic concepts and policies, and the generation, strategic projection, and operational employment of decisive joint and coalition land combat power.” In addition to the common leader competencies discussed in the chief of staff of the army’s “Pentathlete Vision,” FA 59 officers perform four unique functions: strategic appraisal; strategic and operational planning; joint, interagency, intergovernmental, and multinational (JIIM) integration; and strategic education.

He's a buzzword generator, and real warriors pay little attention to that bull. It's makework created by the lefticle desire to make war decent and kind and hearts and minds and such. Real warriors want beans, bullets, bandaids and batteries for the purpose of breaking people and killing things. Or vice versa.

"Managing violence" my ....
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Grillmark55 wrote:And people wonder why more and more people are jumping on the Texas secessionist bandwagon.
:txflag:
A thought that wagon rolled out of town a few years back.
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It is shameful that he is not going to uphold the oath he took. I doubt it but one can hope he is saying this to avoid the purge in the military that Obama is conducting.
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A federal employee who is also a big government liberal. Shocker.
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