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I repair appliances for a living. This means i am in and out of peoples houses all day, and crouching/laying on the floor poses challenges to concealment. So i have a few questions for you all.

Are there any additional legal issues to worry about when carrying inside someone elses home?

Any other options for carry besides:
1. smart carry
2. ankle
3. sholder(might work)

Any other thoughts on CC and home service would be appreciated.

This is in the idea stage since i still need to obtain a firearm suitable for CC and get my marksmanship up before proceeding with the process. I am definately doing so asap for at least when i am not doing service calls though.

Try a Belly Band Holster. It should do the trick.

http://masterofconcealment.com/index.ph ... mode=image

Frost wrote:Any other options for carry besides:
1. smart carry
2. ankle
3. sholder(might work)

Pocket carry with a good holster should work better than an ankle holster.

I am w/ KD5.
Pocket carry a J-frame or sub compact. That means no tight fitting jeans & a good pocket holster so the gun will not exit the pocket & holster remain in.

Legally, you are fine carrying in a customer's home, so long as it's not posted with a 30.06 sign (I've never seen one on a private residence) and the homeowner hasn't verbally told you they don't allow guns in the home.

Pocket-carry with a pocket holster to avoid printing, or perhaps Thunderware, should work better than most methods of carry. I'm sure you have to bend and reach a lot and homeowners probably tend you watch you work, so many traditional methods may not work well for you.

Chas.

KD5NRH wrote:

Frost wrote:Any other options for carry besides:
1. smart carry
2. ankle
3. sholder(might work)

Pocket carry with a good holster should work better than an ankle holster.

Gotta go with this too.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Frost wrote:and get my marksmanship up

um, if you can HIT the target at, I dunno, 10 yds you can pass the CHL requirement for shooting.

you can go IWB, about 4:45pm, with a J-frame, but I agree that a pocket holster would be the best overall idea.

Kramer Confidant might be a solution. They are made by Kramer Handgun Leather who makes a wide selection of quality holsters. I strongly recommend the full length version so you can tuck it in. You can find them here:

http://www.kramerleather.com/products.cfm?categoryID=21

This is a product made in the form of a mesh undershirt with a pocket under each arm pit which will hold a small pistol or revolver and extra magazine/ammo. The pockets close with velcro. They are well made.

It is undectable unless someone is going to frisk you.

It is not uncomfortable, but properly fitted needs to be a bit snug. I wear an underarmor wicking type T-shirt under mine

Due to body moisture, I would recommend a stainless steel model or other rust resistant model of weapon.

Due to the nature of your business which can entail squatting, bending, laying on the floor, I can't think of anything else that would would be both reasonably comfortable and undetectable. At only $50 a pop, it would be worth a try.

I hope this helps.

phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.

Right2Carry wrote:

phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.

Of course a 30.06 or verbal notice is required to legally prohibit you from carrying into a customers home. The law is the law, and it is clear.

I am curious as to WHY you think it is not appropriate for a repairman to carry into a home. Please be specific.

If a repairman came into my home and was carrying and I had no idea. So be it. If I see it while he is inside my home, I am disarming him at gunpoint until he produces a valid CHL and/or my PD shows up. Of course, Panic button is getting pressed before I draw on him. If everything is on the up and up, fine, he can carry, but look at how much time we just wasted and he will probably get fired for being a liability if his boss finds out.

You don't mess around in people homes, especially strangers...

My sign says, "We don't call 911"

Right2Carry wrote:

phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.

As someone who spent 28 years going into people's homes as a telephone repairman and who was "attacked" one and a half times, I see no problem with carry into people's homes, if they live in TX they should know that the guy who comes to the door might be CHL and if they want to prevent it, they should act appropriately. If they are ignorant of the law, too bad, welcome to Texas, if they don't like it, too bad, welcome to Texas, and if they don't post, see above.

OTOH, having spent a lot of time crawling around crawl spaces and such, I have given a lot of thought to how I might carry under the circumstances without hindering my ability to move or work, and have come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is try several alternatives and find the one that works best for you. I think that a good comfortable IWB at the right kidney would have worked for me, I have never worn my drawers low enough to expose plumber's revenge and my tool belt and climbing belt would hit lower than the holster.

BTW, in neither of the circumstances that I found myself in would it have been appropriate to respond with a firearm. One time I was physically attacked by a person with mental difficulties who didn't understand my presence, and the other I was met by a shotgun pointed though the door on a guy's pot farm.

How about company policy about carry on the job. The phone company had very strict rules about that.

BrassMonkey wrote:
You don't mess around in people homes, especially strangers...

My sign says, "We don't call 911"

so, only YOU'RE allowed to carry....