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OWB and printing
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:17 pm
by glockoneniner
Howdy,
I am taking my class this weekend (Yipee!), so I went ahead a bought a rig today. I bought a Blackhawk CQC Sepra OWB and a G&G gun belt. So, I'm all geared up, walking around the house, trying different clothes and it seems that button down shirts conceal pretty well. (I really don't want to wear one of those vests that screams "I'm carrying a gun!" Anyway, there seems to a little bit of "print" no matter what I do. I presume this is a no-no and would get me arrested.
Any sugestions [besides going IWB...which I may do, but don't want to buy all new pants]?
Thanks for this great forum.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:28 pm
by Cosmo 9
G19, what type of gun do you have?
I also think that no matter what, buying new clothes for concealment is going to happen. You will also buy holsters and guns! It's all part of the program.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:29 pm
by nitrogen
99% of people won't notice printing.
Heck, last year, I was walking around my office with my cover garment up over and behind my gun for half the day. Nobody noticed.
You'd be surprised what people won't notice. As long as it's not obviously gun shaped, don't sweat it. People won't even notice a buldge, assuming it's a cellphone or something.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:32 pm
by ghentry
I have found the following work well:
- Bold prints
- Stripes
- Dark colors
Any fabric that is thin will print easily if its too tight. Also I've found that shiny materials, such as rayon or polyester show the outline of the gun when the light hits the shirt.
Does this holster hold the gun high and tight to your body?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:35 pm
by txinvestigator
Printing is not illegal. Intentionally failing to conceal your gun is.
If you want to conceal really well, consider an IWB, or at least a pancake style OWB.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:13 pm
by HighVelocity
two words
HAWAIIAN SHIRT
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:23 pm
by Crossfire
Cosmo 9 wrote:G19, what type of gun do you have?
Hmmmm... I'm just gonna take a wild guess here, but maybe a Glock 19?
As TXI said, a little printing is not illegal. Failure to conceal has to be intentional to get you into real trouble.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:45 pm
by Tote 9
HighVelocity wrote:two words
HAWAIIAN SHIRT
+ Three Words
Soft---Sloppy---Conceals
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:44 pm
by bevans
And most of the haiwiian shirts I have besides covering well will hide food stains well.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:05 pm
by flintknapper
txinvestigator wrote:Printing is not illegal. Intentionally failing to conceal your gun is.
If you want to conceal really well, consider an IWB, or at least a pancake style OWB.
Serious question: Is "knowingly" wearing something that "prints" tantamount to intentionally failing to conceal your gun?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:09 pm
by FM_Weasel
flintknapper wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Printing is not illegal. Intentionally failing to conceal your gun is.
If you want to conceal really well, consider an IWB, or at least a pancake style OWB.
Serious question: Is "knowingly" wearing something that "prints" tantamount to intentionally failing to conceal your gun?
Now who's gonna prove that you're knowingly printing?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:21 am
by age_ranger
llwatson wrote:Cosmo 9 wrote:G19, what type of gun do you have?
Hmmmm... I'm just gonna take a wild guess here, but maybe a Glock 19?
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Lucky guess............lol
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:54 am
by flintknapper
FM_Weasel wrote:flintknapper wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Printing is not illegal. Intentionally failing to conceal your gun is.
If you want to conceal really well, consider an IWB, or at least a pancake style OWB.
Serious question: Is "knowingly" wearing something that "prints" tantamount to intentionally failing to conceal your gun?
Now who's gonna prove that you're knowingly printing?
A lawyer.
As with all things, it could be argued that a person of average intelligence, (and otherwise prudent and reasonable) "should" have known that a "tight" thin white t-shirt would not adequately "conceal" his full size 1911 in an OWB (hypothetical). "Covered" doesn't always mean "concealed", but if anyone wants to be the test case, go ahead.
I think it would be unwise at best...to become too lax concerning proper concealment.
Just another reason I'd like to see the option to OC.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:03 am
by ElGato
with Flint, I think the SHOULD HAVE KNOWN might turn out to be very important here and suspect that right and wrong will fall somewhere between a bulge and the outline of the weapon. IMO The lawyers and judge involved will have a huge effect on the outcome.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:10 am
by Diode
HighVelocity wrote:two words
HAWAIIAN SHIRT
or in the winter Blue Jean Shirts.
Book'em Dano......
