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Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:25 pm
by Vic
I was leaving a restaurant today at lunch. The gentleman ahead of me in line for the cashier engaged her with this conversation:
Man: See that sign right there? (indicating the blue TABC sign behind her)
Cashier: Yes
Man: That sign is illegal. It has to be in English and in Spanish.
I interrupted at this point and told him he was thinking of the 30.06 sign which is not the same as this TABC sign. He looks cross-eyed at me and says "Read the book!" and then walks out.
I guess it is impossible for some people to understand that there are different signs, with different rules, for different situations. I wonder what he thinks about the 51% sign or the Federal sign...
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:32 pm
by texanron
Obviously your new friend is not as smart as he thinks he is. I wonder what he was hoping to accomplish by telling the cashier, who probably could give a rats behind, about those signs.
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:34 pm
by bayouhazard
Why bother correcting him. The blue sign is a TABC matter, like the pregnancy sign they post in the men bathroom.
Seriously.
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:37 pm
by nakedbike
He might have been right.
found on
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/code/8 ... Titles.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; page 258
§ 411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES. (a) A business that has a
permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives
51 percent or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the business premises a sign that complies with the
requirements of Subsection (c).
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing home
licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c)
other than the requirement that the sign include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in both English and
Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height and must include
on its face the number "51" printed in solid red at least five inches in height. The sign shall be displayed
in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
they do exist.
IANAL
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:39 pm
by bayouhazard
The blue sign is not for 51%.
Read the book!
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:44 pm
by RoyGBiv
bayouhazard wrote:The blue sign is not for 51%.
Read the book!
Beat me to it...
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:46 pm
by RoyGBiv
EDIT: Woo.. too big..
Valid words but invalid letter size (therefore invalid sign) 30.06 and Blue TABC
Vs.
Red 51% TABC
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:24 pm
by Keith B
nakedbike wrote:He might have been right.
found on
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/code/8 ... Titles.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; page 258
§ 411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES. (a) A business that has a
permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives
51 percent or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the business premises a sign that complies with the
requirements of Subsection (c).
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing home
licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c)
other than the requirement that the sign include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in both English and
Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
The sign must appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height and must include
on its face the number "51" printed in solid red at least five inches in height. The sign shall be displayed
in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
they do exist.
IANAL
Interesting. There are apparently different guidelines in effect on this. The Retailers Guide and the Administrative rules state that the Commission or Administrator
may require the sign to be in a language other than English if the majority of the patrons to the establishment speak a different language. So, I would assume that if you went to a Russian restaurant and the predominance of the patrons were Russian, then they might require it posted in that language.
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:26 pm
by MoJo
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:52 pm
by magillapd
RoyGBiv wrote:EDIT: Woo.. too big..
Valid words but invalid letter size (therefore invalid sign) 30.06 and Blue TABC
Vs.
Red 51% TABC
Where was the 30.06 sign posted at?
Re: Misunderstanding different signs
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:17 pm
by RoyGBiv
magillapd wrote:
Where was the 30.06 sign posted at?
Dunno.... Just an example I found in another thread or on the web...
Looks like somebody just printed it on their printer from the DPS web site.
