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Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is leaving

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:17 am
by Gambit
Joe Driver is one of the most progun Congress critters out there.
We lost a really progun ally who will step up now? :shock:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-polit ... tv-report/

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:19 am
by The Annoyed Man
Gambit wrote:Joe Driver is one of the most progun Congress critters out there.
We lost a really progun ally who will step up now? :shock:
Isn't he a State Representative in the Texas legislature?

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/arch ... -expe.html
State Rep. Joe Driver will plead guilty to a felony charge of abuse of office, a Travis County prosecutor told the Texas Tribune late Tuesday.

"He is going to plea to the third-degree felony," Assistant District Attorney Gregg Cox said. "It is a plea of guilt."

The indictment of the Garland Republican was first reported by Fox 4 News.

A representative for the veteran legislator said Wednesday that he would not comment on the case. The plea is expected to be entered during a Nov. 22 hearing.

Driver, who was first elected in 1992, admitted last year that for years he had double-billed his campaign and state taxpayers for travel expenses. He said he thought the practice was appropriate, at least until he was confronted about it by an Associated Press reporter.

"Now you're scaring the heck out of me," Driver told the AP, adding: "It pretty well screws my week."
How is it that a grown man with some knowledge of the law thinks it is acceptable to double bill expenses? I am grateful for the work he has done on behalf of our gun rights, but I am very troubled by this charge against his character.

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:20 am
by thatguy
How is it that a grown man with some knowledge of the law thinks it is acceptable to double bill expenses? I am grateful for the work he has done on behalf of our gun rights, but I am very troubled by this charge against his character.

:iagree: Right on TAM, if you are I stole money from our employer we would be held accountable, as we should be.

In fact I feel that the whole CHL thing or movement is based on accountability, to say the least.

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:36 pm
by Liberty
The Annoyed Man wrote: How is it that a grown man with some knowledge of the law thinks it is acceptable to double bill expenses? I am grateful for the work he has done on behalf of our gun rights, but I am very troubled by this charge against his character.
Not to make make excuses for him, because he should have known better, but its pretty easy to fall into the trap of believing that campaign money actually belongs to the politician. He is raising the money, it is "his" campaign fund and actually he is just writing checks to himself. Yeah, He should have known better, and there are legal ways to get rich off a state rep job that pays $600 a month. How many are on staff for big litigation companies, and state contractors.

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:36 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Liberty wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: How is it that a grown man with some knowledge of the law thinks it is acceptable to double bill expenses? I am grateful for the work he has done on behalf of our gun rights, but I am very troubled by this charge against his character.
Not to make make excuses for him, because he should have known better, but its pretty easy to fall into the trap of believing that campaign money actually belongs to the politician. He is raising the money, it is "his" campaign fund and actually he is just writing checks to himself. Yeah, He should have known better, and there are legal ways to get rich off a state rep job that pays $600 a month. How many are on staff for big litigation companies, and state contractors.
That still doesn't explain how he thought it was OK to bill his campaign AND bill the taxpayers. If I charged a client for travel expenses, and then I tried to deduct those travel expenses on my tax return, I could get in serious trouble for that. Pretty much any fool knows you don't do stuff like that......unless you are morally compromised.

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:58 pm
by RiverCity.45
Kind of feeds that stereotype that politicians are crooks...even the ones who support our pet causes, irrespective of their party affiliation.

I admit to being cynical about politicians. :tiphat:

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:46 pm
by TxFig
So getting back to the original question: who is going to pick up the banner for us?

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:47 pm
by smtimelevi
RiverCity.45 wrote:Kind of feeds that stereotype that politicians are crooks...even the ones who support our pet causes, irrespective of their party affiliation.

I admit to being cynical about politicians. :tiphat:
:iagree:

Re: Who will support Campus carry now that Joe driver is lea

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:38 pm
by croc870
The whole reimbursement issue is alot more complex than most people understand. Almost all legislators bills both their campaign and the state for travel expenses, the issue is repayment. Since legislators are not exactly well paid, most of them have their campaigns reimburse them as soon as expenses are paid for, so that they don't to wait months for their money. Because of the structure Texas reporting requirements, it's difficult to track how people are reimbursed. A lot of legislators have done this for many years, and some will tell you candidly that they were told that this was the correct way to do it. This case has a lot more to do with politics than it does a lack of integrity.