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That's why the Republican majority killed campus carry in Texas. So criminals have no opposition.stephengauntt wrote:If I see a sign that prohibits guns on a property
It looks like an open invitation for trouble the
criminals take it as license to do anything without opposition
What kind of trouble are you trying to start? Did you intend that to be funny or something? A couple of individuals would have made all the difference. Do you think the Democrat Party in this state is for ANY sort of concealed carry, much less on college campuses? I'm currently a "college student", so trust me when I say that I am certainly ticked off about what all happened with campus carry...but I know which party in this state is more for it and which one is more against it. If you have beef with specific individual's behavior during the legislative session, then say so...but please don't go trolling around here. Thank you.Zergrush wrote:That's why the Republican majority killed campus carry in Texas. So criminals have no opposition.stephengauntt wrote:If I see a sign that prohibits guns on a property
It looks like an open invitation for trouble the
criminals take it as license to do anything without opposition
But they were Texas democrats, not California or New York democrats.....a significant difference.apostate wrote:I seem to recall there was a Democratic majority in the Texas legislature when they passed the original CHL law.
Just saying...
1) Punctuation is your friend......and everyone else's too.stephengauntt wrote:If I see a sign that prohibits guns on a property
It looks like an open invitation for trouble the
criminals take it as license to do anything without opposition
With all due respect, I think that makes no sense. Did your representative and senator vote for or against? If they voted against, then by all means vote for someone else in the next election. But, "Texas Republicans" also includes my representative and senator, both of whom favored campus carry. So why should you be ticked off at my representative and senator? You should not be. They voted in your favor. The party may have a majority, but that means next to nothing at the level of the individual legislator, who has to answer to their local constituency. If the majority of the voters in your district did not favor campus carry, and your representative voted against campus carry, then your representative did a good job of representing the predominant sentiments of your district. Mind you, I strongly supported campus carry, and I sent my share of emails and made my share of phone calls on behalf of it; but I'm just trying to give a little perspective here. Maybe a constructive response as an activist might be to involve yourself in educating your fellow constituents in your district in the off-season, to preload the issue in your favor for the next legislative session.apostate wrote:Meanwhile the Texas Republican majority failed, once again, to allow me to carry into buildings on campus.The Annoyed Man wrote:But they were Texas democrats, not California or New York democrats.....a significant difference.apostate wrote:I seem to recall there was a Democratic majority in the Texas legislature when they passed the original CHL law.
Just saying...
I made the drive from Houston to Austin for both committee hearings this year, so I think I was pretty clear about my #1 priority. If they did not vote for campus carry, I will not vote for them in the primary or general elections. It seems only fair.
This would make for an interesting sign done up to look official and placed next to any gun free zone signs.softwarejanitor wrote:I call "no gun zones" like college campuses "designated victim areas".
With all due respect as well, I would like to point out that a quick use of the search function of Annoyed Man's previous posts reveals the use of the word Democrat or Democratic in 119 separate postings. Not all of the post, but many in my opinion, beat up on my representation with some very broad brush generalized thinking! Whats good for the goose...!!!The Annoyed Man wrote:With all due respect, I think that makes no sense. Did your representative and senator vote for or against? If they voted against, then by all means vote for someone else in the next election. But, "Texas Republicans" also includes my representative and senator, both of whom favored campus carry. So why should you be ticked off at my representative and senator? You should not be. They voted in your favor. The party may have a majority, but that means next to nothing at the level of the individual legislator, who has to answer to their local constituency. If the majority of the voters in your district did not favor campus carry, and your representative voted against campus carry, then your representative did a good job of representing the predominant sentiments of your district. Mind you, I strongly supported campus carry, and I sent my share of emails and made my share of phone calls on behalf of it; but I'm just trying to give a little perspective here. Maybe a constructive response as an activist might be to involve yourself in educating your fellow constituents in your district in the off-season, to preload the issue in your favor for the next legislative session.apostate wrote:Meanwhile the Texas Republican majority failed, once again, to allow me to carry into buildings on campus.The Annoyed Man wrote:But they were Texas democrats, not California or New York democrats.....a significant difference.apostate wrote:I seem to recall there was a Democratic majority in the Texas legislature when they passed the original CHL law.
Just saying...
I made the drive from Houston to Austin for both committee hearings this year, so I think I was pretty clear about my #1 priority. If they did not vote for campus carry, I will not vote for them in the primary or general elections. It seems only fair.
But don't beat up on my representation just because yours couldn't get it together to make the right vote. Broad brush generalized thinking can be counter-productive.
But we really should get back to the original topic....ie Bad Sign Walk Off.As an unapologetic republican, guilty as charged. But that said, you should feel the same way about your representation. A) Did you support campus carry? B) Did your party support campus carry? C) Did your representative and senator support campus carry? If you supported campus carry, and your party did not, are you disappointed with your party? (I am disappointed generally with the republican party in Texas over this issue.) If you supported campus carry and your district representation did not, are you angry with them for perpetuating a safe-for-criminals environment?BillT wrote:With all due respect as well, I would like to point out that a quick use of the search function of Annoyed Man's previous posts reveals the use of the word Democrat or Democratic in 119 separate postings. Not all of the post, but many in my opinion, beat up on my representation with some very broad brush generalized thinking! Whats good for the goose...!!!
With your prompt admission of guilt above I think I will leave it at that. My representation comes from both parties as I am one of the rare middle of the road people these days, so engaging in your political debate, off topic, would be pointless for both of us. I only wanted to point out that there are people with Broad Brushes on both sides of the political spectrum these days... It's hurting the Republicans just as much as the Democrats... but the real victims are the people of the United States.The Annoyed Man wrote: As an unapologetic republican, guilty as charged. But that said, you should feel the same way about your representation. A) Did you support campus carry? B) Did your party support campus carry? C) Did your representative and senator support campus carry? If you supported campus carry, and your party did not, are you disappointed with your party? (I am disappointed generally with the republican party in Texas over this issue.) If you supported campus carry and your district representation did not, are you angry with them for perpetuating a safe-for-criminals environment?
With regard to campus carry, what percentage of republicans in the legislature supported it, versus the percentage of democrats who supported it. I'm willing to bet that a greater percentage of republicans supported it than democrats. I'm talking percentage, not sheer numbers, because even though it failed to pass, I would also be surprised if the total number of republicans who voted in favor wasn't pretty close to the total number of democrats in the legislature. Obviously, it didn't pass. House republicans outnumber democrats 101 to 49. Senate republicans outnumber democrats 19 to 12. For the house to have passed campus carry, it would have required 76 votes (50%+1). For the Senate to have passed campus carry would have required 16 votes.
In any case, apostate speaks like he wants to wipe out the entire republican party because his representation failed him. My point is that I am happy with my representation because they voted in favor of campus carry. The solution isn't to fire my representation along with his when it was his representation that was part of the problem, not mine. If you are in favor of campus carry, and your representation voted against it, then your representation is the problem, not mine. And if my gut feeling turns out to be true—that democrats voted against it in higher percentages than did republicans—then you would be better served to vote republican in the next election cycle, helping to ensure that future attempts to pass campus carry will succeed.