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What if you are pulled over by an MP while on a base, unarmed of course, should you show your CHL along with your DL?

papajohn1964 wrote:What if you are pulled over by an MP while on a base, unarmed of course, should you show your CHL along with your DL?

If you aren't carrying, then you don't need to.

papajohn1964 wrote:What if you are pulled over by an MP while on a base, unarmed of course, should you show your CHL along with your DL?

How did you legally get onto the base with your CHL? I thought most military bases are off-limits to CHL.

The Annoyed Man wrote:How did you legally get onto the base with your CHL? I thought most military bases are off-limits to CHL.

I'm pretty sure you can have a CHL and be on a military base. You just can't actually carry.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

papajohn1964 wrote:What if you are pulled over by an MP while on a base, unarmed of course, should you show your CHL along with your DL?

How did you legally get onto the base with your CHL? I thought most military bases are off-limits to CHL.

Hi TAM.

He did state "unarmed."

I would say "no" because I am not armed. Otherwise, I'm also not certain about an MP's authority over me, a civilian, like a civilian LEO. If this were to somehow occur off base I don't think they would have any authority over me and I wouldn't have to show them my CHL even if I were armed.

Oops! I missed the "unarmed" part.

papajohn1964 wrote:What if you are pulled over by an MP while on a base, unarmed of course, should you show your CHL along with your DL?

I work on Post here at Fort Hood with the DES. If I were you, I wouldn't show your Concealed Carry License with your Drivers License, I am assuming you are unarmed. It would sure inflame the situation as it is illegal to conceal carry, reference AR 190-11, 4-5a(2), or have ready access to a privately owned weapon/ammunition on a Federal Installation. The MP would probably, read gaurantee, detain you, call his/her supervisor, wait for their arrival, you and your vehicle would be searched and due to the holding and searching of both you and your vehicle, you would be blottered. Not good if you intend to come on the installation later on. Cannot conceal carry, at least legally...

If it's a state military base, you are allowed to carry as long as you stay out of the federal parts, so it shouldn't cause you any heartache if you do. I have never had a problem.

Texas CHL law only requires you to display your CHL to a TEXAS PEACE OFFICER or a MAGISTRATE and then only if he asks for ID. Federal and military law enforcement are not Texas peace officers or magistrates to the best of my knowledge...

If you locked your gun and all ammo in the trunk, while on a federal facility, I'm assuming
that this would still not be good enough to avoid arrest. Comments?

SIA

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:If you locked your gun and all ammo in the trunk, while on a federal facility, I'm assuming
that this would still not be good enough to avoid arrest. Comments?

SIA

No!

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:If you locked your gun and all ammo in the trunk, while on a federal facility, I'm assuming
that this would still not be good enough to avoid arrest. Comments?

SIA

Each installation has separate rules concerning weapons being brought on post/base. As general rule of thumb you cannot normally have a weapon at a military installation. I know that recently at Ft. Hood you could inform the (civilian) security force at the gate that you have a locked up and unloaded firearm if you are only going from one gate to the Gatesville gate or vice-versa--cutting through. This only pertained to those that had installation decals. Do not know if that policy is still in place. When I was a member of the Sportsman Club, you had to go to the Provost Marshal's Office with the S/N, make, and model of each weapon to get a document to bring it back to the PMO for inspection. Once this was complete they issued you another document that allowed you to take the weapon directly to the Sportsman Club and directly off post. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200. You still had to declare and most times have the weapon inspected at the gate. Again, you could only go directly to the Sportsman Club and then directly off post. Some days it seemed like I spent more time unloading, locking up, getting inspected, and doing the reverse to leave, than I did shooting. I no longer go to the Sportsman Club.

When I pick my grandkids up, their mother meets me at the gate so I do not have to disarm. Since the terrorist attack at Ft. Hood I refuse to be unarmed if at all possible.

RottenApple wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:How did you legally get onto the base with your CHL? I thought most military bases are off-limits to CHL.

I'm pretty sure you can have a CHL and be on a military base. You just can't actually carry.

No sir, ,not correct, Fast way to see cuffs on you and a long day ahead

ELB wrote:Texas CHL law only requires you to display your CHL to a TEXAS PEACE OFFICER or a MAGISTRATE and then only if he asks for ID. Federal and military law enforcement are not Texas peace officers or magistrates to the best of my knowledge...

Hmmm. So, the FBI, ATF, DEA, and others do not qualify as those we must show our CHL license to if asked for ID? Interesting.

No show is what I was thinking. I start training on 7/18 to be a armed guard at Ft Sam Houston. I know that we will be issued a pistol at the armory before each shift. I will ask them if we will be able to carry our personal firearm on base. Probably not though.