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4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:57 pm
by R_Comstock
Hey guys! Been a long time since I've posted here and admittedly, I haven't kept up with the changes to CHL over the last few months. There is a guy advertising on the radio in Corpus Christi that he can provide the necessary CHL training in 4 hours. Did the classroom requirement change recently or is this guy a bandit instructor?

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:07 pm
by Teamless
Teaching the UTAH Class most likely, get the UTAH license (until the new UTAH law goes into effect).

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:51 pm
by hirundo82
10 hours of instruction are still required by law for initial licensure, and 4 hours for renewals. This guy is probably a Utah instructor--the list of Utah instructors shows four in the 361 area code.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:19 pm
by USA1
I've been hearing radio commercials about "four hour chl's" being offered at the gun show and wondered the same thing.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:26 pm
by 05RKClass
I saw a poster board advertising 4-hour CHL at the last gun show in GRB. I was thinking UTAH, but still had my concerns about that path.

From the previous post - are they changing the law in Utah or here in Texas to hinder this setup?

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:41 pm
by Rebel
05RKClass wrote:I saw a poster board advertising 4-hour CHL at the last gun show in GRB. I was thinking UTAH, but still had my concerns about that path.

From the previous post - are they changing the law in Utah or here in Texas to hinder this setup?
Utah just made it necessary for a non resident applicant to 1st have a CFP/CHL/CCW whatever a state calls it from their home state prior to getting a Utah CFP. This only applies to States that have reciprocity with Utah such as Texas, this wouldn't apply to a resident of a state such as California, which doesn't recognize any other States permits.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:57 am
by Keith B
Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:20 am
by Rebel
Keith B wrote:Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
Did you mean Dec. 31, 2012?

Unless someone has a time machine I can borrow the 2010 is going to be a problem. :lol:

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:30 am
by Keith B
Rebel wrote:
Keith B wrote:Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
Did you mean Dec. 31, 2012?

Unless someone has a time machine I can borrow the 2010 is going to be a problem. :lol:
Sorry, typo. I meant 2011 (end of this year.)

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:33 am
by Rebel
Keith B wrote:
Rebel wrote:
Keith B wrote:Utah has now passed legislation that as of May 1, 2011, you must have a resident license from your state before you can get a Utah license. So, if your legal residence is Texas, then you will be required to hold a current and valid Texas CHL or you will not be able to get a Utah license. Those that already have a Utah license and no Texas license, you will have until Dec. 31, 2010 to renew your existing Utah license. After that date, you will be required to hold a residence license from your state first.
Did you mean Dec. 31, 2012?

Unless someone has a time machine I can borrow the 2010 is going to be a problem. :lol:
Sorry, typo. I meant 2011 (end of this year.)
Just to clarify,

Taken from Crossfire in Utah solved thread
Effective May 10, 2011, New Non-Resident Utah CFP applicants will have to include a copy of their current resident permit to qualify for a Utah CFP.

Effective Jan 1, 2012, Non-Resident RENEWAL applicants will also have to submit a copy of their current resident permit.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:41 am
by Keith B
OK, May 10 vs. May 1, and Dec 31 is still the last day to renew without a resident CHL from your state.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:33 pm
by Mr.ViperBoa
I love it! it means all those who chose to get a Utah license because it was faster will now have to do the Texas class anyway. :hurry:

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:14 pm
by OldSchool
And, maybe now the Four-Hour Gent won't be so bellicose. :cheers2:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40538&hilit=+4+hour#p486809

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:06 pm
by Bart
The "4 Hour CHL" is false advertising because Utah doesn't issue a CHL. If the "4 Hour CHL" guys are a real problem, the answer isn't new laws in Texas. The remedy already exists for deceptive trade practices.

I'm tempted to offer a three hour concealed carry class. :evil2: I'm not a Utah instructor, so the new Utah law doesn't affect me, but I am certified to teach a class that satisfies the training requirement for at least one state that has reciprocity with Texas.

Re: 4 Hour CHL?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:50 pm
by jmra
There was a large banner at the Fort Worth show today stating 4 hour classes with no written test, no range requirement, and $10 renewal. Two ladies sitting behind the table. Didn't see anyone approach the table the several times I passed by. I thought about asking if they had a plan B, but left well enough alone. I probably should do that more often.