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Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:36 pm
by Cofmatt
I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:50 pm
by txinvestigator
Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Unless you were charged with family violence then you are fine.
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:51 pm
by Cofmatt
txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Unless you were charged with family violence then you are fine.
I was just worried because section 42 talks about assault and the DPS website says that deferred adjudication is still a conviction?
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:56 pm
by txinvestigator
Cofmatt wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Unless you were charged with family violence then you are fine.
I was just worried because section 42 talks about assault and the DPS website says that deferred adjudication is still a conviction?
Section 42 of what? If you are referring to the penal code, assault is not in Chapter 42.
If you were convicted of disorderly conduct within the last 5 years, including deferred, then you are ineligible. However, you wrote that you took deferred on Class C assault, not disorderly conduct.
Can you clarify?
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:07 pm
by Cofmatt
txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Unless you were charged with family violence then you are fine.
I was just worried because section 42 talks about assault and the DPS website says that deferred adjudication is still a conviction?
Section 42 of what? If you are referring to the penal code, assault is not in Chapter 42.
If you were convicted of disorderly conduct within the last 5 years, including deferred, then you are ineligible. However, you wrote that you took deferred on Class C assault, not disorderly conduct.
Can you clarify?
I recall reading that under that section it talks about assault too. Originally I was charged with obscene display or some other disorderly conduct charge but it was dropped(The police were trying to get me on anything they could and wrote me up for using profane language)
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:09 pm
by wo5m
Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
If it’s truly a class C (same as traffic ticket) then you should be fine. However, ifs it’s a class B or A you have to wait until your 24 assuming the court date (not the arrest) occurred when you 19.
Question for others:
I don’t know the Texas penal code very well, but isn’t unusual to go to jail for a Class C? Isn’t disorder conduct a Class B?
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:13 pm
by txinvestigator
Cofmatt wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Unless you were charged with family violence then you are fine.
I was just worried because section 42 talks about assault and the DPS website says that deferred adjudication is still a conviction?
Section 42 of what? If you are referring to the penal code, assault is not in Chapter 42.
If you were convicted of disorderly conduct within the last 5 years, including deferred, then you are ineligible. However, you wrote that you took deferred on Class C assault, not disorderly conduct.
Can you clarify?
I recall reading that under that section it talks about assault too. Originally I was charged with obscene display or some other disorderly conduct charge but it was dropped(The police were trying to get me on anything they could and wrote me up for using profane language)
Nope, Different animals. so you were originally charged with Disorderly Conduct, profane language, and the charges were dropped? How did you end up with an assault? Did the court actually modify the charge rather than drop it?
Regardless, if your actual conviction is Assault, class c, deferred, you are good to go for the CHL.
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:16 pm
by txinvestigator
wo5m wrote:
If it’s truly a class C (same as traffic ticket) then you should be fine. However, ifs it’s a class B or C you have to wait until your 24 assuming the court date (not the arrest) occurred when you 19.
I think you meant Class B or A. ;)
Question for others:
I don’t know the Texas penal code very well, but isn’t unusual to go to jail for a Class C? Isn’t disorder conduct a Class B?
Not unusual at all, especially when the police are arresting you for POP (Perturbed Off the Police).
And most disorderlies are Class C's that is why he CHL law lists them separately.
All but 2 disorderlies are Class C's.
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:28 pm
by Cofmatt
wo5m wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
If it’s truly a class C (same as traffic ticket) then you should be fine. However, ifs it’s a class B or C you have to wait until your 24 assuming the court date (not the arrest) occurred when you 19.
Question for others:
I don’t know the Texas penal code very well, but isn’t unusual to go to jail for a Class C? Isn’t disorder conduct a Class B?
Yeah it is very unusual to go to jail for a class c.. even the DA said it was strange.
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:29 pm
by Cofmatt
txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:txinvestigator wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
Unless you were charged with family violence then you are fine.
I was just worried because section 42 talks about assault and the DPS website says that deferred adjudication is still a conviction?
Section 42 of what? If you are referring to the penal code, assault is not in Chapter 42.
If you were convicted of disorderly conduct within the last 5 years, including deferred, then you are ineligible. However, you wrote that you took deferred on Class C assault, not disorderly conduct.
Can you clarify?
I recall reading that under that section it talks about assault too. Originally I was charged with obscene display or some other disorderly conduct charge but it was dropped(The police were trying to get me on anything they could and wrote me up for using profane language)
Nope, Different animals. so you were originally charged with Disorderly Conduct, profane language, and the charges were dropped? How did you end up with an assault? Did the court actually modify the charge rather than drop it?
Regardless, if your actual conviction is Assault, class c, deferred, you are good to go for the CHL.
I was charged with both and ended up getting the first one dropped but they would not budge on the assault.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:31 pm
by Cofmatt
I just sent the info I found on the DPS site and this forum to my father(who is an attorney) and he seems to side you that I am eligible.
Thanks for the help, I am going to go find a CHL class now...
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:32 pm
by DustinB
I would go by the country clerk's office and get copies of the dispositions, they will tell you exactly what happened.
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:33 pm
by txinvestigator
Cofmatt wrote:wo5m wrote:Cofmatt wrote:I am a 22 year old male, I work full-time and am going back to school full time in January.. When I was 19 years old I was arrested for Class C Misdemeanor assault and ended up on deferred adjudication for it. I do not want to go into any details about this arrest because I feel that it was wrong and that I should not have been taken to jail. I am just worried that if I spend my money applying for the permit that this will prevent me from getting it and I would much rather spend that money on ammo. I am a responsible gun owner so please do not judge me, I just need advice on how I should get my CHL.
If it’s truly a class C (same as traffic ticket) then you should be fine. However, ifs it’s a class B or C you have to wait until your 24 assuming the court date (not the arrest) occurred when you 19.
Question for others:
I don’t know the Texas penal code very well, but isn’t unusual to go to jail for a Class C? Isn’t disorder conduct a Class B?
Yeah it is very unusual to go to jail for a class c.. even the DA said it was strange.
heeheehee, I'll agree it is strange, but it is NOT unusual. Especially the DO violations.
Best of luck to you, and let us know when that license arrives!
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:44 pm
by barres
Welcome to the forum, Cofmatt. Are you the person I pointed over here from the Sig Forum?
Re: Need some help to see if I can get my permit..
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:56 pm
by wo5m
txinvestigator wrote:wo5m wrote:
If it’s truly a class C (same as traffic ticket) then you should be fine. However, ifs it’s a class B or C you have to wait until your 24 assuming the court date (not the arrest) occurred when you 19.
I think you meant Class B or A. ;)
Woops, sorry about that
