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The thread about the Taco Cabana that changed it's sign, possibly because of customer communication, seems to have sparked some hope that some business will listen. Several people have ordered a stack of the TSRA cards:


But, I am sure that various AMC theaters around Texas have gotten stacks of these over the years. They are a big organization and this policy seems to come from the top down. So this got me thinking ...

It's one thing to say that this policy is costing them $$$$ - it's another thing to prove it to them. What if instead of giving the local theater a card we try the following:

Everytime we go see a movie a another theater, mail the ticket stubs to AMC theater headquarters with a quick note explaining that AMC theaters did not get our business because of the anti 2A policy. If you buy snacks, try to save that receipt as well and send it also - or at least give them an estimate of the snacks purchased. Then it's more than a veiled threat that this policy is costing them money - we are showing them direct proof.

Here is their corporate address as listed on their website:

AMC Entertainment Inc.
P.O. Box 725489
Atlanta, GA 31139-9923

And they promise:

AMC will respond to your letter in a timely manner.

I know, its a long shot. But what a victory it would be to slay this giant ...

A few thoughts:

1) Their signs are non-compliant, and the few times that I have had to go there, I carried past them.

2) If the corporation really is that anti gun, we should just boycott them
This is what I do. I don't go there. The only time I have, is when I'm given a gift card to there that can't be used anywhere else

3) Better to save up all of them over the course of a year, and mail them all in at once. Bigger impact than one-offs
Even better would be to have everyone on this forum save them for a year or so, and all mail them in together.

dicion wrote:1) Their signs are non-compliant, and the few times that I have had to go there, I carried past them.

Agreed - and no mention of this should be made to HQ. But like you, many do boycott them because whether compliant or not, they are attempting to post.

dicion wrote:2) If the corporation really is that anti gun, we should just boycott them
This is what I do. I don't go there. The only time I have, is when I'm given a gift card to there that can't be used anywhere else

The only problem is that, admittedly, we are not a huge group and they are doing just fine without us. So without communication, they really don't even know. To me, a 'silent' boycott, while preserving your our own piece of mind, does nothing to change the culture. In other words, as a general rule - I do not boycott a business without communicating it to them.

dicion wrote:3) Better to save up all of them over the course of a year, and mail them all in at once. Bigger impact than one-offs
Even better would be to have everyone on this forum save them for a year or so, and all mail them in together.

That could go either way. I box of a few hundred would certainly make a statement. But if we could be consistent enough to be a steady stream, it might serve as a constant reminder - like Chinese water torture. So yeah, I could go either way on this.

But thank you for replying!

My one thought - they are more expensive than Tinseltown here in Grapevine (also, AMC'c matinee time ends one hour earlier than Tinseltown)....the price issue alone is enough, not that I go out to watch movies very much anymore anyway.

PUCKER wrote:My one thought - they are more expensive than Tinseltown here in Grapevine (also, AMC'c matinee time ends one hour earlier than Tinseltown)....the price issue alone is enough, not that I go out to watch movies very much anymore anyway.

Just FYI, the two Cinemarks I go to (Tinseltown and Movies 8 in North Richland Hills) both have non-compliant no-guns signs of some sort (cartoon gun in Tinseltown, generic no guns allowed on a sign inside) so they are "anti-gun" also.

To the best of my knowledge, Harkins in Southlake has no signs whatsoever related to guns.

Regards,
James

These fat cat corporate types don't care if they are losing money. Why else would these vile fat cats fly around the country on corporate jets instead of the airlines? Did you know that ONE trip from Dallas to Las Vegas on a corporate jet can cost $40,000 to $100,000? That's someone's annual salary that these fat cats are blowing on ONE trip! Fat cats don't care about profits. However, their SHARHOLDERS WILL CARE. I suggest that we go to the next shareholders meeting and pass out these cards with a glossy handout that details how 2% more business may mean the difference between survival and bankrupt in this crummy economy. I also suggest that we mail out letters to retailers at gun banned malls because although the mall's YANKEE CARPETBAGGER MANAGEMENT doesn't care if businesses go bankrupt at the mall, I'm sure that the business owners will mind. I've gotten one of the retailers at these gun banned malls to remove the signs at their business entrances. However, the entrances to said mall are still posted. Don't bug CARPETBAGGER MANAGEMENT with cards and letters, but I do invite you to pass out and mail cards and letters to the local owners of businesses in the mall and shareholders. I will visit a local mall next weekend (I'm sick today with the flu) or maybe tomorrow if the doggone fever goes away to personally hand out cards to business owners and kindly ask the employees to hand the cards to the business owners if the owner is not present. For larger retailers like JC Penny, I will mail the letters to their corporate headquarters. Anyways, I'm gonna buy a wee bit o stock in AMC so that I'll get a card in the mail stating when their next annual shareholders meeting is. I suggest that y'all do the same and buy 1 share of stock in AMC so that you'll get the invite to their next shareholder's meeting.



P.S. I had a conversation with an Indian business owner (lots of these small biz are owned by Indians). I was sure to make a small purchase before I began my conversation so that I would be a paying customer, not just a crummy solicitor. I often find that it helps to frame a conversation in a different context. "Namaste," I greeted. I handed her the card.

She replied, "You know, guns are useless. When it's time for you to go, it's time for you to go. It's God's will."

I sensed that she was a pacifist (Jain or maybe Hindu) and self-defense wouldn't work to persuade her. So, I took a different tact. "Guns have nothing to do with that. It is our patriotic duty to bear arms and practice regularly with guns. It says so in the constitution, the same one that gave you all your freedoms that you sought when you came to this country. It is our patriotic duty because if America ever needs me to serve my country, I'll already know how to do so. In world war II, the Japanese considered invading America when all our troops were in Germany. However, they did a study and determined that since 80% of Americans owned guns, it would be impossible to invade. We did our patriotic duty without ever joining the army or firing a shot. In other words, having a gun may prevent violence. As a matter of fact, if you'll take a look at this card, concealed handgun licensees are very peaceful."

"80% of Americans own guns?!" she asked. I think that was the only thing she heard that I said.

"80% of Americans during world war II owned guns. 50% of Texans own guns today. You're making half of your potential customers upset," I replied.

"I didn't know that so many people owned guns. I'll think about what you've said," she said.

"I invite you to think about this. How successful do you think a Mumbai style terrorist attack would be in Texas if half of us own guns and can actually shoot back?" I smiled at her as I left.

I didn't want to be pushy and ask her to sign a letter written to the mall's corporate management right now. I feel like I may win her over if I give her time to digest what I've said. I spoke with the smoothie shop owner at Grapevine Mills Mall. That's the only retailer I spoke with since I began coughing like crazy after my conversation with her. Ugh. Gotta go home and recuperate. I invite y'all to hit your local gun banned malls and speak with business owners to get them to sign letters and TSRA cards that you can mail for them to the mall's corporate management. Angry letters from paying tenants will more likely persuade mall management than customers because you are not their customer. Their tenants are their customers.

terryg wrote:The thread about the Taco Cabana that changed it's sign, possibly because of customer communication, seems to have sparked some hope that some business will listen. Several people have ordered a stack of the TSRA cards:


But, I am sure that various AMC theaters around Texas have gotten stacks of these over the years. They are a big organization and this policy seems to come from the top down. So this got me thinking ...

It's one thing to say that this policy is costing them $$$$ - it's another thing to prove it to them. What if instead of giving the local theater a card we try the following:

Everytime we go see a movie a another theater, mail the ticket stubs to AMC theater headquarters with a quick note explaining that AMC theaters did not get our business because of the anti 2A policy. If you buy snacks, try to save that receipt as well and send it also - or at least give them an estimate of the snacks purchased. Then it's more than a veiled threat that this policy is costing them money - we are showing them direct proof.

Here is their corporate address as listed on their website:

AMC Entertainment Inc.
P.O. Box 725489
Atlanta, GA 31139-9923

And they promise:

AMC will respond to your letter in a timely manner.

I know, its a long shot. But what a victory it would be to slay this giant ...

I took my kids to the Willowbrook AMC last night and their small invalid 30.06 signs were gone. I didn't even see a gubuster sign. They did have some Christmas stuff on the windows, so maybe they needed the room for those? And before anyone flames me for going to AMC, it is very close to my residence and I get discounted tickets from my work. The next closest theater is in Tomball. 2 miles vs 15 miles, no line vs long lines, discount vs no discount. Sorry guys and gals, AMC wins, and yes, I do carry there.

redlin67 wrote:I took my kids to the Willowbrook AMC last night and their small invalid 30.06 signs were gone. I didn't even see a gubuster sign. They did have some Christmas stuff on the windows, so maybe they needed the room for those? And before anyone flames me for going to AMC, it is very close to my residence and I get discounted tickets from my work. The next closest theater is in Tomball. 2 miles vs 15 miles, no line vs long lines, discount vs no discount. Sorry guys and gals, AMC wins, and yes, I do carry there.

I was there yesterday and forgot to look at the non-compliant signs that I always ignore. I will have to look again.

redlin67 wrote:The next closest theater is in Tomball. 2 miles vs 15 miles, no line vs long lines, discount vs no discount. Sorry guys and gals, AMC wins, and yes, I do carry there.

There is a theater called Silverado 19 that is about 8 miles from the AMC at Willowbrook. The wife and I prefer this place over AMC Willowbrook hands down. Not sure if they have a 30.06 sign though. We'll be there this weekend so I'll take a look. We've never had to wait in a line at this place. The wife stocked up on discount coupons for Silverado as well off the Groupon website.

PUCKER wrote:My one thought - they are more expensive than Tinseltown here in Grapevine (also, AMC'c matinee time ends one hour earlier than Tinseltown)....the price issue alone is enough, not that I go out to watch movies very much anymore anyway.

The Annoyed Woman and I went to Tinseltown yesterday for the 4:25 showing of "Due Date." Total cost for admission for two was $8.00. Kimber Ultra on my hip, Glock 19 on my wife's. No problemo.

I haven't been to a movie theater in a long, long time.
There are no original ideas left.

This seems even more reason to not waste my time, or brain cells.

If you REALLY want to make them mad, go to the outdoor ticket machine, and buy some tickets with your credit card.

Walk up to the door, turn around, and go to the ticket window, demanding a refund. Explain why.

nitrogen wrote:If you REALLY want to make them mad, go to the outdoor ticket machine, and buy some tickets with your credit card.

Walk up to the door, turn around, and go to the ticket window, demanding a refund. Explain why.

I like this. Someone needs to do this... with a large group.. of like 100 people.. who all bought their tickets individually on their own cards.

dicion wrote:

nitrogen wrote:If you REALLY want to make them mad, go to the outdoor ticket machine, and buy some tickets with your credit card.

Walk up to the door, turn around, and go to the ticket window, demanding a refund. Explain why.

I like this. Someone needs to do this... with a large group.. of like 100 people.. who all bought their tickets individually on their own cards.

I'm in DFW. If y'al want to do this, I'm in.

I have been a long time reader, but just signed up today. I won't bore y'all with my affiliations and such but let's just say I am committed to doing my part to protect our Second Amendment rights. That said I love the idea of collecting receipts from other area theaters that we visit instead of AMC. Here is what I will do:

If all of you will send me the receipts showing your theater purchases including tickets and concessions I will collect them for 6 months. Once that 6 months is up I will send them all to AMC headquarters along with a letter.

If you all agree please send them to:

DWE
2140 Hall Johnson Rd
Suite 102-303
Grapevine Tx 76051

Mods- can we sticky this? Or I can start a new thread to sticky.